Cadman was bribed by Harper but refused.

[Bertuzzied]

What is the difference between this and Stronach? Nothing, except the conservatives can't even buy votes properly. How are they suppose to form the next government when they can't even do the little things right? Pathetic!


When asked about rumours he was offered by Conservatives an unopposed nomination in exchange for his vote on the budget bills, Cadman admitted they were true.

"The discussions did come up," he admitted on CTV's COUNTDOWN with Mike Duffy later Thursday night. "The talk did come up, yeah."

Cadman said he refused, however.



http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

And he is the better person than Stronach as a result. Stronach is still a power hungry power-whore who apparently will stab anyone in the back as long as it allows her to further her own personal goals and ambitions.... sounds like the perfect Liberalparty member

[Bertuzzied]

I want to hear all those Conservative whiners who say that the Liberals bought the vote explain this.
I guess if they tried to bribe but it does not go through the bribe never happened??!!

Funny thing is the PC forced him out in 2004.

He was re-elected in 2000 under the newly minted Conservative-Reform Alliance Party. But when the new Conservative party came to life last year, Cadman was on the outside after a rival signed up more members for the party's nomination meeting.

Cadman opted to run as an Independent, despite being diagnosed with cancer, and crushed his opponents with nearly double the votes of the second-place New Democrat. The Tory finished third.

[Clarkey]

Hey that's politics for you pal, quite whining about it, it's not like the Liberals wouldn't do the same, oh wait they did!

Doesn't change the fact that Blunder Stronsa prostituted herself.

[Clarkey]

Oh yeah you forgot the obligatory, "don't vote for Rob Anders."

[Resolute 14]

I guess Harper learned too late that principles and honor dont matter in the House of Commons. If he had made that offer a year ago, The government would have fallen yesterday. Instead, he tried to let democracy rule, and as a result, Cadman lost his CPC nomination.

A little late in the process to try and play the Liberals game, methinks.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally posted by Snakeeye@May 20 2005, 02:55 PM
A little late in the process to try and play the Liberals game, methinks.

I think you meant the "politics" game, not the "Liberals" game.

To suggest the Liberals are the only party who use politics is preposterous, ridiculous, absurd, whatever other word you'd like.

[JohnnyTitan]

Originally posted by Snakeeye@May 20 2005, 02:55 PM
I guess Harper learned too late that principles and honor dont matter in the House of Commons.

Huh?

No, I think Harper learned too late about cooperating and compromising and treating MPs who WANT to represent your party with respect and courtesy. (Actually, he still hasn't learned)

Otherwise he'd still have Stronach and possibly Cadman and Brison and who knows who else?

Quite simply Harper does not have the social skills (or desire) to mend fences...something VERY imporant in any leader. Instead he has run to your friendly neighbourhood seperatist party in an attempt to power-whore his way into office. And run caucus like a dictatorship....a poorly run one.

Remember, the reasons the Libs run this minority governemnt is because of Harper's failure to capitalize during the last election...when Canadians were p*ssed over the Ad scandal, the PCs and Alliance had just merged, Paul Martin was a rookie PM and people in Quebec were mad at the Libs but not overly enamoured with the Bloc either. It was all there on a silver platter for Harper, but he was rejected BIG-TIME.

Harper is a huge and disgusting failure. I almost wish there was an election so he could fall on his face again (with the help of White, Stinson, Anders and Thompson of course) and then the CPC could get a new leader that perhaps I could support.

[Resolute 14]

Originally posted by JohnnyTitan@May 20 2005, 09:41 AM
Quite simply Harper does not have the social skills (or desire) to mend fences...something VERY imporant in any leader. Instead he has run to your friendly neighbourhood seperatist party in an attempt to power-whore his way into office. And run caucus like a dictatorship....a poorly run one.

Martin obviously doesnt have the social skills (or desire) to mend fences, as he has displayed by somehow mangaing to further alienate Alberta than Chretien ever managed. Instead, he ran to his friendly, neighborhood socialist party in an attempt to whore himself out to save his government.

Need I remind you of how Liberal caucuses are run?

Everything you say of Harper is true of Martin. Only difference is that Martin is better at it, and more able to sink lower.

And hey, I'll admit that Harper is also a huge disgusting failure. However, his failure is easily matched by Martin, who sold out his one and only redeeming quality - fiscal conservatism - to retain power.

The best possible thing for Canada might be to simply get rid of all of it's political leaders and start all over. Not a one of them - and that includes the slug leading the NDP - has shown they deserve to lead this nation.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Snakeeye@May 20 2005, 08:55 AM
I guess Harper learned too late that principles and honor dont matter in the House of Commons. If he had made that offer a year ago, The government would have fallen yesterday. Instead, he tried to let democracy rule, and as a result, Cadman lost his CPC nomination.

A little late in the process to try and play the Liberals game, methinks.

Do you actually buy this stuff?

It's not the first time I've heard it mentioned that Harper et al are just too true of heart and halo of head to get anywhere.

Do you honestly believe that they are just too principled to beat the dastardly Liberals?

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Clarkey@May 20 2005, 05:30 AM
Hey that's politics for you pal, quite whining about it, it's not like the Liberals wouldn't do the same, oh wait they did!

Doesn't change the fact that Blunder Stronsa prostituted herself.

Your use of sexist lingo when describing a woman makes you a credit to your party. Sure sure, you'd say the same if she was a man. Right.

Vote Rob Anders! (choke)

[Flame On]

Originally posted by Snakeeye@May 20 2005, 07:55 AM
I guess Harper learned too late that principles and honor dont matter in the House of Commons. If he had made that offer a year ago, The government would have fallen yesterday. Instead, he tried to let democracy rule, and as a result, Cadman lost his CPC nomination.

A little late in the process to try and play the Liberals game, methinks.

You give him too much credit. It's more that he's a loser leader that has no idea how to be successful than about anything moral.

[Blaster86]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@May 19 2005, 10:13 PM
And he is the better person than Stronach as a result. Stronach is still a power hungry power-whore who apparently will stab anyone in the back as long as it allows her to further her own personal goals and ambitions.

Wow and too think I had respect for you. It turns out you're just a bitter conservative who isn't aware as to how politics works.

Calling her a whore is totally uncalled for.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Blaster86+May 20 2005, 06:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Blaster86 @ May 20 2005, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Mean Mr. Mustard@May 19 2005, 10:13 PM
And he is the better person than Stronach as a result. Stronach is still a power hungry power-whore who apparently will stab anyone in the back as long as it allows her to further her own personal goals and ambitions.

Wow and too think I had respect for you. It turns out you're just a bitter conservative who isn't aware as to how politics works.

Calling her a whore is totally uncalled for.[/b][/quote]
And the worst part is that for some reason these guys think its fine to use words like prostitute, whore, slut, etc. I'm sure they 'claim' they'd say the same things about men... but that would be bs.

Jeez... lucky it wasn't a black guy, hey? But they'd _never_ use racism in their personal attacks, would they? Sexism is as far as it goes, I'm sure.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+May 20 2005, 06:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ May 20 2005, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Snakeeye@May 20 2005, 08:55 AM
I guess Harper learned too late that principles and honor dont matter in the House of Commons. If he had made that offer a year ago, The government would have fallen yesterday. Instead, he tried to let democracy rule, and as a result, Cadman lost his CPC nomination.

A little late in the process to try and play the Liberals game, methinks.

Do you actually buy this stuff?

It's not the first time I've heard it mentioned that Harper et al are just too true of heart and halo of head to get anywhere.

Do you honestly believe that they are just too principled to beat the dastardly Liberals?[/b][/quote]
Lol, no doubt.

It must have been a long time since there was a _political_ scandal this big in Canada; people here seem to forget that politicians are worse than lawyers. None of them are saints, all of them are sell-outs. You just have to find the one/party that sold out to a cause you sympathise with, and support them.

[Natt]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@May 20 2005, 05:13 AM
And he is the better person than Stronach as a result. Stronach is still a power hungry power-whore who apparently will stab anyone in the back as long as it allows her to further her own personal goals and ambitions.... sounds like the perfect Liberalparty member

Be careful with the sexist comments, you have to realize that women do actually read these posts. Like me.
If you wanna attack her, at least say something legitimate.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally posted by Agamemnon@May 20 2005, 06:33 PM
people here seem to forget that politicians are worse than lawyers. None of them are saints, all of them are sell-outs. You just have to find the one/party that sold out to a cause you sympathise with, and support them.

That is soo true. The politician i respect the most is Ralph Klein and even he is a sell out, when Getty came calling. I guess if we had a dictatorship there would be less selling out. hehe

[dustygoon]

Originally posted by Bertuzzied@May 20 2005, 05:08 AM
What is the difference between this and Stronach? Nothing, except the conservatives can't even buy votes properly. How are they suppose to form the next government when they can't even do the little things right? Pathetic!


When asked about rumours he was offered by Conservatives an unopposed nomination in exchange for his vote on the budget bills, Cadman admitted they were true.

"The discussions did come up," he admitted on CTV's COUNTDOWN with Mike Duffy later Thursday night. "The talk did come up, yeah."

Cadman said he refused, however.



http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

It does not change the fact that the liberals or parts thereof have been funneling tax payer's money to party coffers after paying off loyalists along the way (don't give me nothing has been proven yet). Contracts are handed out to liberal friendly contractors. Golf courses owned by prime ministers are sold with the support of BDC financing. The problem with the conservatives is that the liberals are ripe for a beating but the PC party can't sort their shinguard out enough to win some votes.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by Natt@May 20 2005, 12:42 PM
Be careful with the sexist comments, you have to realize that women do actually read these posts. Like me.
If you wanna attack her, at least say something legitimate.

He is making fun of one woman -- Belinda -- just one. Settle down.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+May 20 2005, 07:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ May 20 2005, 07:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Natt@May 20 2005, 12:42 PM
Be careful with the sexist comments, you have to realize that women do actually read these posts. Like me.
If you wanna attack her, at least say something legitimate.

He is making fun of one woman -- Belinda -- just one. Settle down. [/b][/quote]
And that makes it ok? No.

Why are you defending these people?