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Old 07-28-2007, 09:17 AM   #61
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From what I recall seeing regarding the "8 glasses of water"; the gist of it is you need to consume that much water- but not all of it has to come in the form of clear water. For example a glass of juice counts towards that, water in food counts, etc.
Naturally....I have no problem with that. Again, you should drink water to stay properly hydrated...not to avoid feeling thirsty...and a good sign of being properly hydrated is having colorless urine. And you basically need 8 or more glasses for that.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:18 AM   #62
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Dehydration can cause bright yellow or yellow orange urine.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:30 AM   #63
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Why are the bottles going to the landfill? Does Calgary lack a recycling program?
Sure it does, but how many use it? In the US only 20% of the bottles get recycled, which means 80% go into landfill.

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Its no secret that drinking a lot of water will increase your metabolism...
A quote for "german researchers"? You know better than that, a link to the study would be helpful.

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Another site that explains the benefits of drinking lots of water...

http://www.bmhcc.org/health/healthie...ehydration.asp

I don't even understand why snopes would call the benefits of drinking lots of water a myth.
We're not talking about the benifits of drinking lots of water, we're talking about 8 glasses specifically. The right amount of water is of course the exact amount that you sweat and pee out every day. That link doesn't even say 8 glasses, it says "enough" that varies, and gives ways to tell if you are getting enough. That seems more rational.

As for water helping with weight loss, it helps psychologically for sure (drink something to feel less hungry, etc), but the water itself doesn't facilitate the weight loss; if you take in less calories than you burn, you lose weight. And I'm not convinced that drinking lots of water has an impact on a metabolism.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:37 AM   #64
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As for water helping with weight loss, it helps psychologically for sure (drink something to feel less hungry, etc), but the water itself doesn't facilitate the weight loss; if you take in less calories than you burn, you lose weight. And I'm not convinced that drinking lots of water has an impact on a metabolism.
Well, if you drink a lot of water, you will increase the amount of exercize you get; by getting people off the couch and walking or even running to the bathroom.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:26 AM   #65
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Sure it does, but how many use it? In the US only 20% of the bottles get recycled, which means 80% go into landfill.



A quote for "german researchers"? You know better than that, a link to the study would be helpful.



We're not talking about the benifits of drinking lots of water, we're talking about 8 glasses specifically. The right amount of water is of course the exact amount that you sweat and pee out every day. That link doesn't even say 8 glasses, it says "enough" that varies, and gives ways to tell if you are getting enough. That seems more rational.

As for water helping with weight loss, it helps psychologically for sure (drink something to feel less hungry, etc), but the water itself doesn't facilitate the weight loss; if you take in less calories than you burn, you lose weight. And I'm not convinced that drinking lots of water has an impact on a metabolism.
The German research part came from...

http://www.thatsfit.com/2007/07/26/d...ur-metabolism/

I absolutely agree with what you're saying about losing weight...in the end, burning more calories than you take in will result in weight loss.
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:43 AM   #66
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Anyone have those psycho water drinkers co-workers that down those mini-jugs of the stuff. Everywhere they go they have water with them like the office is the sahara desert.
At least it's better then those diet coke addicts that do the same thing with their diet coke, but in smaller containers. It isn't unreasonable for someone to think that drinking lots of water is good for you. But no sane person can think that drinking a couple of litres of diet coke can be good for you even if it doesn't have any calories.
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Don't your kidneys have to process all that coke? Imagine...
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:24 PM   #68
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Well, the thing about municipal water that I wonder about is the impact of chlorine...as I understand it they put it in the water to keep the pipes from getting contaminated by bacteria etc. The thing is, they have to put enough in the water at the source (the water plant) to be effective at the most remote ends of the system...so if you live close to the plant you would be drinking more chlorine that at the fringes...

Also, I wonder about floride, are there different types of flouride and which is being used in the water...

Anyways, I know very little about this topic but I am curious. One thing is for sure, and that is potable water is probably going to be increasingly valuable/rare in our lifetimes
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:40 PM   #69
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Bottled water by revers osmoses is supposed to be some of the best bottled water for you. It's not like Pepsi and Coke are filling the bottles from a hose, they are filtering it and purifying it first...
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Where would the tap water be from? I'm used to the tap water from Ottawa since I've grown up with it my whole life. I can't drink Calgary tap water because it tastes different to me. Heck, I can't even stand the smell of tap water from Florida and the taste of it almost makes me want to throw up.

But when it comes to bottled water I can't drink most of it either. The only bottled water I know that I like is Dasani because it tastes similiar to the tap water I'm used to. I might not be able to pick out the differences between the no-name bottled water and, say, Nestle bottled water but I could differentiate between them and Dasani or my local bottled water.
Drinking lots of water is a great idea, your body needs way more than 80% of people get in daily intake.

Its not that water itself increases your metabolism, its the fact that having proper amounts of water in your body puts your body at optimal levels.

The best test for water requirements is simple, the clearer your urine, the better you are off.

If you have very yellow urine its not a good thing.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:17 AM   #71
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I doubt that very much, at least not if you used Calgary tap water. It definitely has a chemical undertaste, nothing blatant, but there.

There might be some bottled water with that same taste, I suppose, but neither Evian nor Aquafina have that taste; Aquifina doesn't really taste like anything except water, Evian has a faint metallic tinge to it but I don't always notice it, probably depending on what other crap has gotten in my nose that day.

I'm sure there are many people who can't tell the difference. That doesn't mean that nobody can. I agree that anyone who drinks bottled water because it is safer, or healthier, or more natural, is crazy, but I couldn't care less about any of that, I just dislike the taste of chlorination.

Tomorrow I will do a blind taste test and see if I am right or wrong. I'll mark the bottles, then get my gf to pour me a glass out of each out of my sight, then have her bring me the glasses and I will tell her which is which. 6 trials should be enough to determine if I am crazy or not; I will need to get all 6 right, which has a 1/64 chance of happening at random.

PS - Also, the study that showed people preferred the NYC municipal water cannot be used to show there is no difference between the tastes of different waters; if that was so, then NO preference would have arisen thru the tests, not a preference for one type. Taste being partially subjective, it also doesn't mean that a particular person can't prefer the taste of a particular brand over other brands or the finest municipal bouquets, either.

PPS - I used to have a filtration system when I owned a condo; now I live in an apartment and while you can get countertop systems or install them under the sink, I am not spending my money to upgrade my landlord's water system. Maybe if I wasn't being gouged every 6 months to pay more and more rent in a building built back in the 60's...
We have in North America some of the cleanest and best water in the world. Its cheap, free, and even IF you could find some slight difference you would get used to it.

Take 9 bottled waters, a Calgary tap water. Put them in glasses, all the equal temp.

The vast majority could not pick out the tap water. Hell do it with 4 bottled water and 1 Calgary water.

I did focus group tests for a friend who was looking into getting into the bottled water market. The results were hilarious, and its a true crime how much money bottled water companies make on this stuff.

I also looked into this 6 years ago in Iceland, where the water is claimed to be the cleanest water in the world. In fact, you dont' btw want pure water, minerals in water are important.

Think of it this way.

Take a bottle of plastic, fill it with tap water, wait 1 month and taste it.

Tell me you don't taste 'dead water'.

Because you are taking water, making it still and of course closing it from air.

Its not good, it tastes dead.

Listen whatever people convince themselves of, bottled water is one of the biggest scams around. Its next to nothing to bottle, its a HUGE mark up, Coke and Pepsi WISH everyone stopped drinking coke and only bought their bottled dead tap water with ZOMG reverse osmosis.

Clean water isnt the goal. Water with minerals, no taste and fresh from the tap is much better than overly clean, tasteless, dead water.
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:31 AM   #72
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Well, the thing about municipal water that I wonder about is the impact of chlorine...as I understand it they put it in the water to keep the pipes from getting contaminated by bacteria etc. The thing is, they have to put enough in the water at the source (the water plant) to be effective at the most remote ends of the system...so if you live close to the plant you would be drinking more chlorine that at the fringes...
How does the chlorine get out of the water? If the concentration of chlorine right before it goes into the system is 0.5 parts per million, how does that concentration go down as it goes through the pipes?
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How does the chlorine get out of the water? If the concentration of chlorine right before it goes into the system is 0.5 parts per million, how does that concentration go down as it goes through the pipes?
Good question, wiki has some answers

Quality standards in the United States require specific amounts of disinfectant (example, residual chlorine content) in the water after it leaves the WTP (Water Treatment Plant), at the end of the treatment process to reduce the risk of re-contamination while the water is in the distribution system.

Disinfection is normally the last step in purifying drinking water. Water is disinfected to kill any pathogens which pass through the filters. Possible pathogens include viruses, bacteria, including Escherichia coli, Campylobacter and Shigella, and protozoans, including G. lamblia and other Cryptosporidia. In most developed countries, public water supplies are required to maintain a residual disinfecting agent throughout the distribution system, in which water may remain for days before reaching the consumer. Following the introduction of any chemical disinfecting agent, the water is usually held in temporary storage - often called a contact tank or clear well to allow the disinfecting action to complete. is the sanitising of sterilisation of water. This is done by adding gaseous dissloved chlorine in the water. Chlorine at a concentration of 1 or 2 ppm destroys bacteria and some viruses. Sufficient chlorine is added to the water (with careful monitoring) to ensure that the concentration stays slightly above 1ppm until the water reaches the end user.
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Sorry for digging up an old thread, but I didn't want to start a new one just for this... going along with the not reusing water bottles theme, does anyone know where I can find a glass water bottle? I've been trying to look for one but they seem to be hard to come by.
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Sorry for digging up an old thread, but I didn't want to start a new one just for this... going along with the not reusing water bottles theme, does anyone know where I can find a glass water bottle? I've been trying to look for one but they seem to be hard to come by.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:09 AM   #76
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I drink bottled water for the taste. Also because I live outside of town and I dont trust well water. I get my water from Culligan, because it is easy to run into walmart to grab 10 new bottles every few weeks.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:16 AM   #77
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does anyone know where I can find a glass water bottle?
I think they may be harder to find because all the cool kids are using the Nalgene bottles. IIRC it has many of the properties of glass like not absorbing odors, stains, etc- but is also mostly unbreakable.
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When I was in Canmore there was a shop selling aluminum SIGG water bottles.

They were pretty cool, however were over $30 each.

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