Should/Will the Flames keep Ward

[bax]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So if this whole time was spent finding assistants for Ward would that not suggest he was chosen early in the process?

Not necessarily. There are truly endless possibilities for what happened and we are all just guessing. I would be very surprised if Treliving admitted he didn't talk to anybody at all during the process.

Maybe interviews went poorly, maybe Gallant and Laviolette indicated they wanted to wait to hear on the Caps job. Maybe they said no to Calgary all together.

It seems unusually tight lipped. Maybe they are trying to bring somebody in and move Ward back down to associate? Maybe they are trying to find an experienced head coach willing to take an associate role and keep Ward?

At this point though if they just announce Ward and the same assistants returning I will be curious if something fell through.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Flames have shown that they like to keep their hand picked assistants so I'm not sure much would change although it's possible Ward has a coach or two that he's always wanted to follow him into his first head coach gig. I would almost be okay with Ward coming back if he changed the goaltending coach as it's the one stone the organization has left unturned over the last few coach hirings/firings.

Or else the key is to get rid of Gelinas

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by bax

Not necessarily. There are truly endless possibilities for what happened and we are all just guessing. I would be very surprised if Treliving admitted he didn't talk to anybody at all during the process.

Maybe interviews went poorly, maybe Gallant and Laviolette indicated they wanted to wait to hear on the Caps job. Maybe they said no to Calgary all together.

It seems unusually tight lipped. Maybe they are trying to bring somebody in and move Ward back down to associate? Maybe they are trying to find an experienced head coach willing to take an associate role and keep Ward?

At this point though if they just announce Ward and the same assistants returning I will be curious if something fell through.

Just spitballing but its also possible that there are guys still with their current clubs he wants to talk with but has to wait until their season is over.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Just spitballing but its also possible that there are guys still with their current clubs he wants to talk with but has to wait until their season is over.

Yeah, i thought that too. There’s more coaches than Ward on the hot seat.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Just spitballing but its also possible that there are guys still with their current clubs he wants to talk with but has to wait until their season is over.

There remains a multitude of reasons for why there has not been any news at all on the Flames coaching front, which is why all the premature frustration and/or resignation about any supposed decision is pretty silly.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

That’s an interesting point. People used to be seen flying to the cities where they were interviewing, and the gossip fed journalists

From my recollection that is where most rumors came from regarding the Flames in the past for coaching/management changes. John Doe was seen at Restaurant X with Joe Blow. John Doe was seen on a flight to Calgary or at the Calgary airport.

Originally Posted by Toonage

Given the current situation I would imagine Laviolette, Gallant, Babcock etc did not interview for the Caps coaching job in person and those were still discovered.

The simplest answer is likely the right one. Treliving didn't speak to anyone else.

The simplest answer is not one where you make baseless assumptions. The simplest answer is one that shows a pattern. Thus this would be the simplest answer.

The Flames are notoriously tight lipped about personnel moves. We have found out most Flames moves through beat reporters in other cities where the candidates have been employed. Or via people seeing the candidates in the city.

The Capitals are not notoriously tight lipped about personnel moves. We all knew basically immediately that Reirden was done in Washington. We all knew Trotz was done in Washington mid-way through his final season there and that Reirden was their guy.

So how is there any shock something has leaked out of Washington but not Calgary?

[Flash Walken]

Ah, the ole flames don't leak argument.

It's every other team in the league that leaks, but not the flames.

[Toonage]

Wasn't all that tight lipped during the last two coaching dismissals and hires.

We knew Tre had interviewed GG, Ward and Reirden in 2016. That's what left a lot of people puzzled that he didn't speak to Boudreau.

Heck we even knew Conroy went hiking with Gulutzan.

In 2018 we knew Peters was the target even before Peters left Carolina.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Wasn't all that tight lipped during the last two coaching dismissals and hires.

We knew Tre had interviewed GG, Ward and Reirden in 2016. That's what left a lot of people puzzled that he didn't speak to Boudreau.

Heck we even knew Conroy went hiking with Gulutzan.

In 2018 we knew Peters was the target even before Peters left Carolina.

Yeah but all those leaks came from other organizations.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Wasn't all that tight lipped during the last two coaching dismissals and hires.

We knew Tre had interviewed GG, Ward and Reirden in 2016. That's what left a lot of people puzzled that he didn't speak to Boudreau.

In the middle of a publicised ongoing coaching search.

Heck we even knew Conroy went hiking with Gulutzan.

It became known well after the fact, and after Gulutzan was hired.

In 2018 we knew Peters was the target even before Peters left Carolina.

But Gulutzan's firing was abrupt, and the speculation surrounding Peters was generated by his own opt-out clause in his existing contract. Since we don't know about whether or not the team is even looking at other candidates, I just don't think prior outcomes have much bearing on what is happening now.

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[Strange Brew]

And we know about Stone, Zucker, Kadri, Hall, Bishop, Fleury. Who am I missing? I don’t think notoriously tight lipped really fits anymore.

And the other thing you will hear this summer after a guy gets traded will be some comment about wanting guys who want to be here, or who are committed to winning etc. Something along those lines.

It’s the spin game and Flames play it as much as any team. That just seems to be how it works unless you have the occasional GM who absolutely does not care what anyone else things, a la LL.