This years starting lineup

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by FBI

Gaudreau - Stajan - Jones
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seems like such a waste

Not so fast.... I think Gaudreau could get D. Jones his scoring touch back. Imo, D. Jones is perfectly capable of scoring goals with a player like Johnny feeding him the puck. I think Johnny would make Stajan and Jones a hell of a lot better.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

Then who will the 7th Dman be? Cundari, Seiloff, Lamb and Ramage are prospects too.

I can easily see Wotherspoon getting more games in than Engelland.

They will probably sign a veteran

[doctajones428]

Originally Posted by FBI

Gaudreau - Stajan - Jones
blah

seems like such a waste

I don't see Gaudreau immediately getting second line time, but I could see him being moved up to play with Monahan and Colborne later in the season

[Monahan23]

SAFE SPOTS ON FORWARD: Curtis Glencross (1st/2nd line), Jiri Hudler (1st/2nd line), Mikael Backlund (1st line), David Jones (anywhere), Joe Colborne (top 6), Sean Monahan (2nd/3rd line), Brian McGrattan (4th line), Lance Bouma (4th line), Matt Stajan (2nd/3rd line), Paul Byron (anywhere), Mason Raymond (top 9), Brandon Bollig (4th line)

12/14 spots

SAFE SPOTS ON DEFENCE: Mark Giordano (#1d), T.J Brodie (top 2), Latislav Smid (top 4), Dennis Wideman (top 4), Kris Russell (top 6), Deryk Engelland (6/7th)

6/7 spots

SAFE SPOTS AT GOALIE: Jonas Hiller (starter or backup), Karri Rämö (backup or starter)

2/2 spots


PLAYERS IN CONSIDERATION (FORWARD): Corban Knight, Max Reinhart, Sven Baertschi, Johnny Gaudreau, Bill Arnold, Bryce Van Brabant, David Wolf, Sam Bennett

PLAYERS IN CONSIDERATION (DEFENCE): Jaime McBain, Michael Del Zotto, Brett Bellmore, Raphael Diaz, Tyler Wotherspoon, Mark Cundari


MY ROSTER

Mason Raymond - Mikael Backlund - Joe Colborne
Sven Baertschi - Sean Monahan - Jiri Hudler
Curtis Glencross - Matt Stajan - David Jones
Lance Bouma - Max Reinhart - Brandon Bollig
Paul Byron, Brian McGrattan

T.J Brodie - Mark Giordano
Latislav Smid - Dennis Wideman
Kris Russell - Deryk Engelland
Jaime McBain

Jonas Hiller
Karri Rämö

ADIRONDACK

Johnny Gaudreau - Bill Arnold - Kevin Hayes
Markus Granlund - Corban Knight - Aaron Palushaj
Kenny Agostino - Josh Jooris - Michael Ferland
David Wolf - Bryce Van Brabant - Ben Hanowski
Turner Elson - Corey Locke - Austin Carroll
Grayson Downing

Tyler Wotherspoon - Matt McKenzie
Pat Sieloff - Sena Acolatse
Mark Cundari - John Ramage
Brett Kulak - Charles Olivier-Roy
Ryan Culkin

Joni Ortio
Thiessen

[MarkGio]

Culkin and Kulak will not be playing less minutes than McKenzie or Acolatse? The goal, now that Ward is gone, is to develop more than win

[FBI]

I like the safe spots analysis. That is a little discouraging. Only 2 spots for our young guys.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Culkin and Kulak will not be playing less minutes than McKenzie or Acolatse? The goal, now that Ward is gone, is to develop more than win

It depends on how Culkin and Kulak can handle the minutes. Giving him too much too soon is not good either.

[jlh2640]

Glencross Monahan Baertchi
Hudler Backlund Raymond
Gaudreau Stajan Jones
Bollig Colbourne Bouma
Byron Mcgrattan


Giordano Brodie
Smid Wideman
Russell Engelland
Wotherspoon

Ramo
Hiller

[Monahan23]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Culkin and Kulak will not be playing less minutes than McKenzie or Acolatse? The goal, now that Ward is gone, is to develop more than win

also Acolatse might be one of our best defencemen

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Monahan23

also Acolatse might be one of our best defencemen

I like him with Sieloff. If they take offense when Sieloff blasts someone Acolatse can just step in and beat them up.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Not so fast.... I think Gaudreau could get D. Jones his scoring touch back. Imo, D. Jones is perfectly capable of scoring goals with a player like Johnny feeding him the puck. I think Johnny would make Stajan and Jones a hell of a lot better.

optimistic, but ideal if true.
That would increase the value of one or two pieces we may look to moving .

[FBI]

Bump for setoguchi. Man, not sure where the rookies fit now

[FBI]

Also props to flamezilla and roof daddy for picking seto way back.

[Journey17]

SAFE SPOTS ON FORWARD: Curtis Glencross (1st/2nd line), Jiri Hudler (1st/2nd line), Mikael Backlund (1st line), David Jones (anywhere), Joe Colborne (top 9), Sean Monahan (2nd line), Brian McGrattan (4th line), Lance Bouma (4th line), Matt Stajan (2nd/3rd line), Paul Byron (anywhere), Mason Raymond (top 9), Brandon Bollig (4th line), Setoguchi (anywhere, top6 to start)

13/14 spots

PLAYERS IN CONSIDERATION (FORWARD): Corban Knight, Max Reinhart, Sven Baertschi, Johnny Gaudreau, Bill Arnold, Bryce Van Brabant, David Wolf, Sam Bennett, Granlund

I think you, Monahan23, were close. You missed Granlund in your list of possibles and I think he plays a fair amount of games this year. I'd pick him ahead of Sven in fact.

I think we should look at who has played together as pairings and make sense for roles:
Raymond- Backlund-Hudler (Most likely top line players)
OPEN-Monahan-Colborne (Setoguchi gets first shot but if out played then rookie gets a shot)
Glencross-Stajan-Jones/Bouma (defensive responsible line)
Byron-Bouma (4th liners - Bollig, McGrattan, etc will rotate)

If Jones doesn't have his game together then he gets pressboxed same as last year. That third line has potential to put up a few goals while being responsible and taking the hard matchups.

If Setoguchi doesn't have his game then he drops to the 4th line and a rookie gets a shot with Monahan-Colborne.

For people complaining about rookies not getting a shot. Wait for the inevitable injuries and trades. I'd expect 20-30 games for whoever performs well at the start of the year amongst Jonny, Sven, and Granlund. I think Reinhart makes the team to start the year as the most ready prospect and one who is a bottom 6 player max so doesn't have as much to work on.

[StrykerSteve]

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2014/2015 Calgary Flames opening night lineup.

FORWARDS
Jiri Hudler ($4.000m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) / Mason Raymond ($3.150m)
Joe Colborne ($1.275m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / Devin Setoguchi ($3.000m)
Brandon Bollig ($1.250m) / Lance Bouma ($0.635m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / T.J. Brodie ($2.125m)
Kris Russell ($2.600m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) / Deryk Engelland ($2.917m)
GOALTENDERS
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Jonas Hiller ($4.500m)

Which gives you a minor league team that looks something like this.

FORWARDS
Sven Baertschi ($0.894m) / Max Reinhart ($0.618m) / Emile Poirier ($0.894m)
Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m) / Bill Arnold ($0.888m) / Morgan Klimchuk ($0.894m)
Michael Ferland ($0.612m) / Markus Granlund ($0.768m) / David Wolf ($0.868m)
Kenneth Agostino ($0.845m) / Corban Knight ($0.900m) / Ben Hanowski ($0.851m)
Turner Elson ($0.565m) / Josh Jooris ($0.925m) / Bryce Van Brabant ($0.913m)
DEFENSEMEN
Tyler Wotherspoon ($0.925m) / Patrick Sieloff ($0.894m)
John Ramage ($0.690m) / Mark Cundari ($0.660m)
Ryan Culkin ($0.657m) / Brett Kulak ($0.657m)
Keegan Kanzig ($0.662m) / Sena Acolatse ($0.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Joni Ortio ($0.600m)
Brad Thiessen ($0.550m)

[Da_Chief]

Klimchuk is not AHL eligible.

Totally forgot about Wolf.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2014/2015 Calgary Flames opening night lineup.

FORWARDS
Jiri Hudler ($4.000m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / David Jones ($4.000m)

If David Jones is on our first line to start the season I will throw stuff at my tv.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Klimchuk is not AHL eligible.

Totally forgot about Wolf.

Neither is Kanzig.

[StrykerSteve]

Ahh, why did I think they were? Oops.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2014/2015 Calgary Flames opening night lineup.

FORWARDS
Jiri Hudler ($4.000m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) / Mason Raymond ($3.150m)
Joe Colborne ($1.275m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / Devin Setoguchi ($3.000m)
Brandon Bollig ($1.250m) / Lance Bouma ($0.635m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / T.J. Brodie ($2.125m)
Kris Russell ($2.600m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) / Deryk Engelland ($2.917m)
GOALTENDERS
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Jonas Hiller ($4.500m)

Which gives you a minor league team that looks something like this.

FORWARDS
Sven Baertschi ($0.894m) / Max Reinhart ($0.618m) / Emile Poirier ($0.894m)
Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m) / Bill Arnold ($0.888m) / Morgan Klimchuk ($0.894m)
Michael Ferland ($0.612m) / Markus Granlund ($0.768m) / David Wolf ($0.868m)
Kenneth Agostino ($0.845m) / Corban Knight ($0.900m) / Ben Hanowski ($0.851m)
Turner Elson ($0.565m) / Josh Jooris ($0.925m) / Bryce Van Brabant ($0.913m)
DEFENSEMEN
Tyler Wotherspoon ($0.925m) / Patrick Sieloff ($0.894m)
John Ramage ($0.690m) / Mark Cundari ($0.660m)
Ryan Culkin ($0.657m) / Brett Kulak ($0.657m)
Keegan Kanzig ($0.662m) / Sena Acolatse ($0.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Joni Ortio ($0.600m)
Brad Thiessen ($0.550m)

I thought klimchuk has to go to WHL.

Nevertheless, man, I almost want to watch Adirondack games more if this is the Flames line up - to see the bright future rather than the dim present