FOX News Beats the War Drum Once Again

[Azure]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

You're right! I am not a regular O'Reilly Factor viewer but that's because I hate what O'Reilly stands for. The only time I bothered to watch his show was earlier this year when Shaw Cable was previewing new channels. As soon as the free preview ended, I demanded that Fox News be removed from my subscription. Alot of the Fox News stuff I have seen recently has been courtesy of youtube and The Daily Show.

What? And earlier you said...

Sorry, but I have watched O'Reilly's show enough to know what goes on.

Watching his show 'once' does not qualify as knowing what is going on.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Azure

What? And earlier you said...



Watching his show 'once' does not qualify as knowing what is going on.

for O'Reilly, it does. he only has one shtick , and if you've seen one of his shows you've seen em all

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

for O'Reilly, it does. he only has one shtick , and if you've seen one of his shows you've seen em all

That makes you sound really fair and open minded.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

That makes you sound really fair and open minded.

Are you trying to say there are people like that on both sides of the spectrum? No way!

[vicphoenix13]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

So which is it..."I've watched O'Reilly's show enough to know" or "I am not a regular viewer" and I summarily dismiss the network and everyone on it to the extent that I must have it removed from my cable programming?

One's a lie.

The other is very intriguing. Since it's free you could just block it, simply ignore it...but you have to call and have it removed? Why?

Thanks for admitting that you don't know what you're talking about in regard to O'Reilly and his removal of all negative republican information from his shows.

Please just stop! How am I lying? I never said that I was a regular viewer of the O'Reilly Factor. I watched the O'Reilly Factor a couple times when Shaw Cable was offering free previews of new channels. When the free preview ended, I phoned up Shaw and told them to discontinue Fox News Channel. As far as O'Reilly's censorship of negative news about Republicans goes, I know this happens. Even though the film "Out Foxed" is slanted, they did produce proof of O'Reilly covering up negative information by obtaining an internal Fox News memo. Besides, when I watched the O'Reilly factor, the focus was on how bad the Democrats are. In fact, he brought up an old Bill Clinton story. This was all an attempt by O'Reilly to hide the multiple scandals in the G.W. Bush administration.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

Please just stop! How am I lying? I never said that I was a regular viewer of the O'Reilly Factor. I watched the O'Reilly Factor a couple times when Shaw Cable was offering free previews of new channels. When the free preview ended, I phoned up Shaw and told them to discontinue Fox News Channel. As far as O'Reilly's censorship of negative news about Republicans goes, I know this happens. Even though the film "Out Foxed" is slanted, they did produce proof of O'Reilly covering up negative information by obtaining an internal Fox News memo. Besides, when I watched the O'Reilly factor, the focus was on how bad the Democrats are. In fact, he brought up an old Bill Clinton story. This was all an attempt by O'Reilly to hide the multiple scandals in the G.W. Bush administration.

You said you had watched him enough to know when clearly your description of his attitudes was largely inaccurate.

You haven't watched/listened to him enough to know what you claimed to know. You know it, because the film you mentioned told you it was that way.

It's pretty obvious.

[vicphoenix13]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

You said you had watched him enough to know when clearly your description of his attitudes was largely inaccurate.

You haven't watched/listened to him enough to know what you claimed to know. You know it, because the film you mentioned told you it was that way.

It's pretty obvious.

Go ahead, put me in jail for having an opinion. What am I supposed to do? March in to Fox News headquarters in New York and watch archives of the O'Reilly Factor so I can have an opinion. I have seen enough of O'Reilly to know that Democrats are his main target. The only people at Fox News with any spine are Chris Wallace and Alan Colmes. Wallace actually asks tough questions of Conservatives like when he interviewed Darth Cheney a week ago. Colmes is a logically minded person who gets treated like a punching bag by that moron Sean Hannity.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

Go ahead, put me in jail for having an opinion. What am I supposed to do? March in to Fox News headquarters in New York and watch archives of the O'Reilly Factor so I can have an opinion. I have seen enough of O'Reilly to know that Democrats are his main target. The only people at Fox News with any spine are Chris Wallace and Alan Colmes. Wallace actually asks tough questions of Conservatives like when he interviewed Darth Cheney a week ago. Colmes is a logically minded person who gets treated like a punching bag by that moron Sean Hannity.

I don't see jail time in your future ... you're welcome to think what you like.

Frankly I wish these strings could stay away from getting heated, but I'm probably kidding myself.

However, your post above kind of proves my point. I'm assuming you lean somewhat left (as does roughly 1/2 of Amercians, and likely 1/2 of Canadians). Therefore you think Fox is a joke - this is hardly Earth shattering to anyone. But then you go further and name the two left leaning guys at Fox as being ok, but the other guys are morons and/or don't have a spine. For good measure you tuck a Dark Side of the Force analogy to the US sitting VP.

Now doesn't this look to you like a guy that maybe applies a filter to what he takes in? I think everyone is guilty of it to an extent, but you provide living proof of it.

If Americans specifically, could just calm down and really listen to all sides etc, and not make snap judgements like that I think they'd all take a huge step forward in understanding the real meat and potatoes of every issue.

I hope that was said in a way that won't have five guys explain to me why the US should have gone to Iraq ... so tired of that.

[vicphoenix13]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I don't see jail time in your future ... you're welcome to think what you like.

Frankly I wish these strings could stay away from getting heated, but I'm probably kidding myself.

However, your post above kind of proves my point. I'm assuming you lean somewhat left (as does roughly 1/2 of Amercians, and likely 1/2 of Canadians). Therefore you think Fox is a joke - this is hardly Earth shattering to anyone. But then you go further and name the two left leaning guys at Fox as being ok, but the other guys are morons and/or don't have a spine. For good measure you tuck a Dark Side of the Force analogy to the US sitting VP.

Now doesn't this look to you like a guy that maybe applies a filter to what he takes in? I think everyone is guilty of it to an extent, but you provide living proof of it.

If Americans specifically, could just calm down and really listen to all sides etc, and not make snap judgements like that I think they'd all take a huge step forward in understanding the real meat and potatoes of every issue.

I hope that was said in a way that won't have five guys explain to me why the US should have gone to Iraq ... so tired of that.

I do lean to the left, but I am not some radical who attends PETA and Greenpeace meetings. The honest truth is that most people who think logically and pragmatically tend to lean to the left. That's not to say there aren't Conservatives who use commonsense. Lindsay Graham, Chuck Hagel and John McCain usually have logical and coherent arguments to make. I follow politics enough in Canada and the U.S. to make an informed opinion.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

I do lean to the left, but I am not some radical who attends PETA and Greenpeace meetings. The honest truth is that most people who think logically and pragmatically tend to lean to the left. That's not to say there aren't Conservatives who use commonsense. Lindsay Graham, Chuck Hagel and John McCain usually have logical and coherent arguments to make. I follow politics enough in Canada and the U.S. to make an informed opinion.

Just so I have a firm handle on this.

1. Most left leaning people think logically and pragmatically
2. Three right leaning people have logical and coherent arguments
3. and that this is the honest truth

and you are only willing to admit you "lean" to the left.

Man where do I start.

North America is split down the middle man. Middle. That's 300,000,000 people. If you think most of those 150,000,000 are logical and only three of the other half are worth listening too then you are truly in the dark.

You are really showing your colours (and probably your age) in this one.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

I do lean to the left, but I am not some radical who attends PETA and Greenpeace meetings. The honest truth is that most people who think logically and pragmatically tend to lean to the left. That's not to say there aren't Conservatives who use commonsense. Lindsay Graham, Chuck Hagel and John McCain usually have logical and coherent arguments to make. I follow politics enough in Canada and the U.S. to make an informed opinion.

Wow I have to thank you, I've had a pretty glum couple of weeks, and you brightened me up. Thank you thank you thank you.

The fact that your willing to stereotype a whole political group based on probably reading newspapers and watching T.V. and forming your own opinion is funny.

I know people on the left and on the right and believe me logic and pragmatism isn't exclusive to the left wing side. In fact in following politics in Canada and the U.S. I could say that neither of those are bench marks of the liberal left. I could also say that Liberals live by a preset and illogical model based on a fantasy world that dosen't exist in a complex model of how life really works in on this planet, but I reserve that for only a few people that I know who lean to the left.

I do find your argument typical of the neo snobbish concept of how a great many liberals think.

but hey I'm just a knuckle grabbing, war hammer dragging right winger who when he's not stealing from the poor and showing no compassion whatsover to the down troden is busy stealing candies from babies and melting them down to fuel the furnace of the military industrial complex.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The fact that your willing to stereotype a whole political group based on probably reading newspapers and watching T.V. and forming your own opinion is funny.

So funny that you went on to do the exact same thing.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So funny that you went on to do the exact same thing.

Except my entire post was based on sarcasm.

Maybe we can play a game of retorical questions next.

[badnarik]

I'll give you the pragmatic but not the logical

[Bingo]

guys a pissing contest isn't the point.

when you have 300,000,000 people split down the middle, I think we can all agree that you can be intelligent and lean either way and still pass the slobber test.

Shame these things have to spiral downwards so fast.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

Go ahead, put me in jail for having an opinion. What am I supposed to do? March in to Fox News headquarters in New York and watch archives of the O'Reilly Factor so I can have an opinion. I have seen enough of O'Reilly to know that Democrats are his main target. The only people at Fox News with any spine are Chris Wallace and Alan Colmes. Wallace actually asks tough questions of Conservatives like when he interviewed Darth Cheney a week ago. Colmes is a logically minded person who gets treated like a punching bag by that moron Sean Hannity.

You didn't state your opinion, you stated something as fact. That's my beef.

BTW...the last 4 words of the post I am replying to are something I can totally agree with you on. Hannity IS everything you said O'Reilly is. Can't stand him.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

I do lean to the left, but I am not some radical who attends PETA and Greenpeace meetings. The honest truth is that most people who think logically and pragmatically tend to lean to the left. That's not to say there aren't Conservatives who use commonsense. Lindsay Graham, Chuck Hagel and John McCain usually have logical and coherent arguments to make. I follow politics enough in Canada and the U.S. to make an informed opinion.

Now you're claiming intellectual superiority based on your political views? Man that gets old. I'm an idiot because I lean right on most (not all) issues. I don't think logically or pragmatically....ie I'm a moron.

Thanks.

[Displaced Flames fan]

dp

[vicphoenix13]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Wow I have to thank you, I've had a pretty glum couple of weeks, and you brightened me up. Thank you thank you thank you.

The fact that your willing to stereotype a whole political group based on probably reading newspapers and watching T.V. and forming your own opinion is funny.

I know people on the left and on the right and believe me logic and pragmatism isn't exclusive to the left wing side. In fact in following politics in Canada and the U.S. I could say that neither of those are bench marks of the liberal left. I could also say that Liberals live by a preset and illogical model based on a fantasy world that dosen't exist in a complex model of how life really works in on this planet, but I reserve that for only a few people that I know who lean to the left

I do find your argument typical of the neo snobbish concept of how a great many liberals think.

but hey I'm just a knuckle grabbing, war hammer dragging right winger who when he's not stealing from the poor and showing no compassion whatsover to the down troden is busy stealing candies from babies and melting them down to fuel the furnace of the military industrial complex.

I find it funny that you accuse me of being a Liberal snob. The irony is that alot of folks on the Conservative right are complete hypocrites.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by vicphoenix13

I find it funny that you accuse me of being a Liberal snob. The irony is that alot of folks on the Conservative right are complete hypocrites.

Wow, what part of sarcasm don't you get? However coming from someone who basically just accussed one entire side of the political spectrum as illogical and foolish, I'm not surprised.