Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I suspect the stigma on these properties will already be beginning. Selling them will be an issue, value for these specific homeowners will be at risk.
Homeowners suing the province for lost equity next? This will be a huge mess.

Nobody knows what the long term effect is going to be, but I'd suggest during the uncertainty period the government has standing offer to buy at pre-market value so no one is stuck unable to sell a home they had no idea was subject to this. Is that a dumb idea? I don't think there are that many homes in the area being addressed.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Nobody knows what the long term effect is going to be, but I'd suggest during the uncertainty period the government has standing offer to buy at pre-market value

I can't even guess how much money that would be. Hundreds of millions of dollars? And which government, the provincial government? Good luck with that.

[Fuzz]

Looking at the map, it's actually very few homes, more farm land.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...case-9.6944656

Though there are some giants here that wouldn't be cheap if the owner decided to take the offer.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/3g71Xtm6vN1oHeg96

But the idea would be they would still have all or most of their value after everything is sorted. It's the uncertainty that is the issue, and that they are now pretty much locked into their homes until it is sorted.

[Fuzz]

And completely off topic, but it looks to also include a Tesla storage yard. I wonder if these are the ones that ate up all the EV rebates when they sold them to themselves?


https://maps.app.goo.gl/RZdMfgPFwg2LEqtR6

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

That area includes the South Fraser marine terminal, Country Meadows golf course, and the entire Silver City riverport complex, including the hotels, rinks and movie theatres... More federal land than I thought, though.

[Fuzz]

Ya, and I was only referring to individual home owners, not all the industrial and commercial stuff. And it's not like everyone would take the offer, so I think it would be manageable.

[puffnstuff]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pol...ents-9.6948395

After Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre blasted RCMP leadership on a podcast, some party members are questioning whether they will continue supporting him.

Five Conservative caucus members who spoke to Radio-Canada said Poilievre has not changed his message enough since the last election campaign and is not projecting an image befitting a prime minister.

[Looch City]

Updated headline: Five Conservative Caucus Members Have FINALLY Removed Head from Ass.

[Johnny Makarov]

That is terrible news for Carney if the Pest is outted. The Libs would have an easy majority next election.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

That area includes the South Fraser marine terminal, Country Meadows golf course, and the entire Silver City riverport complex, including the hotels, rinks and movie theatres... More federal land than I thought, though.

The Silver City Riverport area isn't currently affected. It was part of the claim area (represented by the green outline), but only the black outlined area was granted Aboriginal title, with the rest being denied as part of the ruling. They're appealing it, so there is some uncertainty, but not really any more than there has been the last 13 or so year this case has been going on.

[TheIronMaiden]

One thing that is important to understand with respect to Indigenous Land Claims in BC is that there were no treaties negotiated in 95% of BC. These decisions will have impact within that province, but should not change the agreement honored in Treaty 7 for example.

These are not snap decisions. They have been a long time coming and had several years to move into action. While settlement began in that part of the world 140 years ago, the majority of displacement occurred 80-100 years ago, and Indigenous peoples have only been offered full access to the legal system since 1951. It took them then 20 years for Calder v. British Columbia 1971 to acknowledged that Indigenous title was a legal right derived from Indigenous peoples’ historic occupation of territory. This isn't digging up bones that have been laid to rest. The corpse has hardly started to rot

[GullFoss]

Not only that but the settlements will be in the spirit of reconciliation. My guess of what happens

1) government settles residential home claims on behalf of home owners and eats the cost
2) for commercial and government land, annual ground rents should be payable to the native band in perpetuity. It's likely affected properties have their properties tax reduced to be kept whole after the new ground rents are applied. And everyone else's property taxes in Richmond will be increased to make up the difference.

[GullFoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1981016242858197483

He's done. Bro went off the deep end post election. Now its time to take him to the glue factory

[Johnny Makarov]

Any moron who voted for the Reform Party and this deplorable, deserves to get herpes to the junk.

[Fuzz]

Bro went off the deep end pre-election, it's just a lot of Canadians didn't notice it at the time. Frankly, I don't think he's ever been in water shallow enough to touch ground. Maybe that's why he's so cranky.

[GullFoss]

I do wonder if PCs are ready to take back the stage. PPs days are numbered. Farkas beat Sharp. Smith looking a bit vulnerable for the first time since being elected.

What would be crazy is if Nenshi managed to peel off the PC wing of the UPCs and created his own party with the more centerist ndpers.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I do wonder if PCs are ready to take back the stage. PPs days are numbered. Farkas beat Sharp. Smith looking a bit vulnerable for the first time since being elected.

What would be crazy is if Nenshi managed to peel off the PC wing of the UPCs and created his own party with the more centerist ndpers.

I've been saying that for the past 8 years. Notley should have dismantled the NDP name, got all the non-effed up UCP members, Alberta Party, the 2 Liberals left in AB and united the left with the new ABBP!

..Anti Bus Boobs Party

Change the god damn name Nenshi!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I do wonder if PCs are ready to take back the stage. PPs days are numbered. Farkas beat Sharp. Smith looking a bit vulnerable for the first time since being elected.

What would be crazy is if Nenshi managed to peel off the PC wing of the UPCs and created his own party with the more centerist ndpers.

The problem for federal Conservatives is that the Carney Liberals have moved into their traditional part of the spectrum. They can fight the Liberals for it, but then the PPC starts grabbing voters right of that, and they get annihilated in the vote splits on both sides. They created this huge contingent of perpetually aggrieved Canadians(Preston Manning's bread and butter) following the lead of America, and they'd be victim to it if they try anything different.

[woob]

If he fails the leadership review, they should fully boot him and give Battle River-Crowfoot back to Damian Kurek.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1981016242858197483

He's done. Bro went off the deep end post election. Now its time to take him to the glue factory

Step 1) Lose election
Step 2) Run in a by-election that costs a couple million dollars
Step 3) Realize no one likes you and step down
Step 4) Force another by-election that costs a couple million dollars


Fiscal Conservatism!!!!