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Old 10-17-2025, 03:13 AM   #27681
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I will follow up on the Chinese EV tariffs as it does not appear that there is any indication of any significant manufacturing that would be based here in Canada. I would not have a problem if they were looking to actually invest major dollars and employment figures here in Canada. The concern is that we are just importing more items from China and losing market share and employment here in Canada/ North America. The EV's that China produces is shocking, I don't think normal people know what is coming down the pipeline from these automakers. China is exporting more cars than all Japanese automakers ever did or could even dream of. There is real fear with how good these cars are now and how quickly they have surpassed the brightest minds elsewhere.

The Chinese strategy of just pure domination in economic scale sometimes is beyond shocking and it's a relatively new development. China's relations with the west kinda didn't really get started until the 80's after the US normalized diplomatic ties. It was a very foreign concept of doing business there even until the 90's. I recall when Greece, due to pressure from EU leaders in the economic crisis, sold it's prized Port of Piraeus to China's Cosco. This is one of the busiest ports in the world, a key asset and Greece, with the pressure/help of the EU sold it for effective chump change of a few hundred million EUR's. China now get's to dump their products into the EU with such ease it's not even funny and it was sold for the value of one or two ship's container traffic. Who is doing the economic thinking in the west for these things?
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Old 10-17-2025, 08:27 AM   #27682
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Yeah theres no way Chinese companies want to make anything here in Canada or do any meaningful investment. If they did their government isn't going to subsidize Canadian wages to keep the prices low They don't care how they perform next quarter financially. They want to be making every personal form of transportation 50 years from now.

They likely view Canada as a really cold version of Africa which only requires starving out 42 million people to completely control its resources. Thats barely a decade long project.
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Old 10-17-2025, 09:57 AM   #27683
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A Chinese EV car factory in Canada would probably make the chassis, body panels, glass, and maybe a few other things in Canada. The motor, battery cells, and every electronic component, button, knob, etc will all come from China. Because it's just the big stuff being done here, it's going to be mostly mechanized. So we won't be helping employment all that much either.
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Old 10-19-2025, 01:25 PM   #27684
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Saw this making the rounds yesterday, maybe place it here? Lawyers are going to making a lot of money.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1979614489759871051

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/art...ays-in-letter/

The letter, signed by Mayor Malcolm Brodie, says that a B.C. Supreme Court ruling granting Aboriginal title to the Cowichan Tribes over a portion of land in Richmond could “negatively affect” the recipients.

“The court has declared Aboriginal title to your property which may compromise the status and validity of your ownership – this was mandated without any prior notice to the landowners,” the letter continues, before inviting recipients to an information meeting to discuss the “serious implications” of the court ruling.
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Old 10-19-2025, 01:32 PM   #27685
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It seems like it's almost certainly going all the way to the SCC and no one knows what's going to happen with it, based on what I can tell. But the uncertainty it creates is not tenable.
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Old 10-20-2025, 03:55 PM   #27686
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Land acknowledgements make everyone feel good until their homes can get taken away.

Politics messing things up yet again.
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Land acknowledgements make everyone feel good until their homes can get taken away.

Politics messing things up yet again.
You've got it backwards, actually. Land acknowledgements (at least by the government) are part of reconciliation and are in effect, an attempt to help ameliorate the situation at zero cost. Doing the opposite (burying their heads in the sand and aggressively opposing any recognition of Aboriginal ownership) would likely make the government's situation more difficult, as courts would not look kindly on the government not making any attempt to advance reconciliation.
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Old 10-20-2025, 04:18 PM   #27688
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As for this case specifically, I think people are extrapolating it far further than it will actually go legally. This involves a specific chunk of land that evidence demonstrates was appropriated to be used as a reserve, as it was the site of a permanent village settlement.

However the reserve creation never happened, and the BC government subsequently removed people from the land and sold it off, mostly to land speculators (many of whom were part of the government). And based on the evidence, there are multiple reasons why those sales were not legal even under the laws of the time.

So it's not really something that's directly applicable to most other land claim cases. Nor does it even attempt to address how Fee Simple title and Aboriginal title can coexist, basically just telling the government and First Nations to figure it out.
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Outside of what has been a rather dull few months in Canadian politics, some word that the NDP may not be on board with the proposed Liberal budget and negotiations aren't going smoothly. Liberals only need 3 votes from other parties but there seems to be a stalemate.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/fed...3cc45df05.html

Liberals would surely win the election again should it ever come to that at this point, and likely could win a majority considering the severe bungling that Poilievre has done. The NDP from what it seems behind closed doors is trying to drive for a bargain way higher than Carney / Liberals want.

Does Carney call the bluff and pass it as is anyways and the NDP will be forced to vote for it regardless? I think he does.

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Old 10-21-2025, 02:03 PM   #27690
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I think the conservatives - or a few - would almost have to vote for it

If they tried to force an election they would get decimated
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Old 10-21-2025, 02:17 PM   #27691
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I think that Canadian politicians and reactive supreme courts have ####ed Canada over.

Canada for Canadians. No Aboriginals anymore. No "settlers". We all live here, we all have to make it work.

Everyone needs to accept that the past happened and move on. And while we're at it, we should stop granting federal funds to pseudo monarchial controlled familial groups who dominate the reserve system and basically enforce extra poverty on the inhabitants of the reserves through rank greed.
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https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/cp...130925428.html

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General Motors has announced an end to production of its electric delivery van at its Ingersoll, Ont., plant just a week after Stellantis said it would be moving production planned for its Brampton, Ont. plant to Illinois.

The two automakers cutting planned production in the province in as many weeks has labour leaders and politicians signalling more aggressive efforts to push back against the companies in an effort to save the industry.

"We have to stand up and say enough is enough, we're fighting back," said Unifor national president Lana Payne.

She wants government to be ready to use counter-tariffs against automakers, which companies currently have a reprieve from as long as they keep their footprint and employment in Canada.

While there's a balance to strike between courting companies and punishing them, Payne said the current approach clearly isn't working as the roughly 3,000 workers in Brampton and more than 1,000 in Ingersoll no longer have a clear future ahead.

To stop the trend, companies need to feel pressure from more than just the Trump administration, she said.
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Old 10-21-2025, 03:16 PM   #27693
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Yes, this a loss of jobs but GM was going to produce/sell less than 4000 of these vans this year and they were only selling a few hundred per year in previous years. There can't be that many people employed to make such a low volume vehicle.
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If a company that gets federal grants decides to move production to foreign areas, IMO the company assets should be nationalized to recoup the gov grant + punitive interest.

Canada Motor Corporation is better than nothing.
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Nor does it even attempt to address how Fee Simple title and Aboriginal title can coexist, basically just telling the government and First Nations to figure it out.
I think you've sort of highlighted the problem here.
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It was hilarious listening to Ben Mulroney emotionally beg the government to interfere in private business decisions. "The government needs to just get out of the way!" isn't the rock solid inviolable motto he thought it was. Until next time.
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BC is ultimately compromised because they didn't sign treaties when they could have. These legal rights for BC first nations have been a long time coming, and ultimately the law is the law. This ruling affects fairly narrow sections of urban areas and it's a manageable risk. Outside of urban areas, it means more rights and sharing of crown territory than otherwise.

To say we should ignore the law because its in the favor of first nations is pretty racist and bigoted IMO. The law in symmetric - in jurisdictions where treaties were signed, we abide by treaty terms in which first rations gave up much of their land to the crown. In jurisdictions where treaties were never signed, natives have larger land claims (because they were here first).

If the crown gave away land that legally belonged to natives, the crown will need to either compensate the first nations or compensate the landowners for illegal land sales. It wont be cheap.
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I'm sure the part at 1:35 is going to be interesting to see unfold. Land and money is going to up for grabs.

It's kinda funny, Eby creating uncertainty for businesses for resource development. Those select home owners (them for now until this spreads further) are going to be ####ed up ####s creek if they want to ever want to try and sell now with all that uncertainty. Would this affect getting a mortgage or renewal? And this is going to take another decade or three of appeals.

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It was hilarious listening to Ben Mulroney emotionally beg the government to interfere in private business decisions. "The government needs to just get out of the way!" isn't the rock solid inviolable motto he thought it was. Until next time.
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I'm sure the part at 1:35 is going to be interesting to see unfold. Land and money is going to up for grabs.

It's kinda funny, Eby creating uncertainty for businesses for resource development. Those select home owners (them for now until this spreads further) are going to be ####ed up ####s creek if they want to ever want to try and sell now with all that uncertainty. Would this affect getting a mortgage or renewal? And this is going to take another decade or three of appeals.
I suspect the stigma on these properties will already be beginning. Selling them will be an issue, value for these specific homeowners will be at risk.
Homeowners suing the province for lost equity next? This will be a huge mess.
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