Francis with Kerr: Who is going?

[Roof-Daddy]

2010-11

Dubuque Fighting Saints, USHL Champions, Leading scorer Johnny Gaudreau

2011-12

Boston College, National Champions, Johnny Gaudreau MVP of the Hockey East Championship Tourney, Beanpot Champions, Johnny Gaudreau Beanpot MVP

2012-13

Boston College, Beanpot Champions, Leading Scorer Johnny Gaudreau, USA World Junior Champions, Leading Scorer Johnny Gaudreau



Yeah, can't win #### with Johnny Gaudreau holding you back.

[getbak]

Gaudreau has won at every level and has been a key contributor to those championship wins...

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

His refusal to really have a proper diet is a red flag

Not this again.

Why don't you break down his diet and workout routine.

Please be sure to provide links and factual evidence to substantiate your claim.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Most teams that win have elite two way players
Johnny isn’t that
Is he more like Phil Kessel or Anze Kopitar
I think kessel is a very fair comparison

If you look up “elite two way players” in the dictionary, you’ll see a picture of Anne Kopitar.


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[OldSam]

Of course Francis would say he knows everything. Just giving click bait so we will read the "tell all" article. Loser.

[monkeyman]

When you hear other coaches and stuff talking about how hard it is to play and coach in Calgary, it's specifically because of guys like Francis. He's really doing the team and the city a disservice with his melodramatic and often polar divisive articles.
His source is just as likely the issue as the people he names.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

As I posted in the game take thread;


I think management probably doesn't have a specific list, but rather, just looks at the roster and sees too many passive and one dimensional players. I think selling high on Ferland would be prudent. But within the group that includes the likes of Johnny, Monahan, Hamilton, Brodie and Sam- I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of those dealt. And I wouldn't be surprised if it was a stunner involving Hamiltion or Johnny.



I know people don't like the notion of trading Johnny. And he is HIGHLY entertaining. But I see him as an opportunity to really address the overall asset void in the organization if you can get someone to really pay up to get him. And I'm not convinced he's a guy you win with.

This team struggles with scoring goals. What player do you receive in a Gaudreau trade that helps you offensively?

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Kessel (despite the fact that's a poor comparison in so many ways) has been in Conn Smythe territory and the Pens wouldn't have won back to back cups without him.

The suggestion we can't win with Johnny because he isn't Crosby or Kopitar is extremely disingenuous.

That would be like saying you're not sure you can win with Patrick Kane (early in the Hawks last incarnation before their cups) because he's not Pavel Datsyuk.

Just not seeing it at all. He's one of the best wingers in the league.

It's not saying because he's not Crosby or Kopitar or Toews, it's because he doesn't have one of those guys. Kane is great but the Hawks wouldn't have won with Toews.

Johnny needs another elite player to play with, I don't think it's Monahan.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Not this again.

Why don't you break down his diet and workout routine.

Please be sure to provide links and factual evidence to substantiate your claim.

Maybe we can get Eric Francis to provide some top notch undercover journalism and provide proof in the form of a Johnny stool sample.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Maybe we can get Eric Francis to provide some top notch undercover journalism and provide proof in the form of a Johnny stool sample.

Francis is in the room, wearing a fake moustache, dressed up in the catering staff uniform. Hard hitting journalism.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

This team struggles with scoring goals. What player do you receive in a Gaudreau trade that helps you offensively?

A package of players that delivers greater balance within the top nine forward group. Have three lines that can score instead of one player in on close to %50 of the teams offense.

[browna]

I think this needs to get away from a Gaudreau bashing thing. It's far too easy and simple an argument just because he has the best stats. He wears his heart I the sleeve mire then most if that's what you define as not caring about losing. And without his career year we are nowhere, and it's not as if his stats come at the expense of someone else (ie he is holding someone else back or down).


Maybe Hamilton whines about getting pulled off the 1st PP unit if the coaches want to make changes. Or whined about getting onto it earlier in the year when he wasn't there.

Ferland may have taken far too long to finally accept not playing on top line and sulks about it. His stats show that.
Maybe Bennett thinks he should be on the top line, Ferland struggles or not, and sulks about it if he isn't.
Maybe Brouwer thinks he should be getting second line minutes and sulks because he isn't.

Those are all stats related just as much as goals and assists where players are more concerned about that individual side when winning games. I think you have to open your interpretation as to what "caring about stats priortizedover winning " means.

And let's not forget Francis is not the Bible on this stuff, it's his job to stir the pot too. There is certainly some questions around the roster and what went wrong, but Francis isn't the compete authority either, as he has his opinion and interpretation on what he sees, and, what he thinks will get page clicks too.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If these really talented players are in fact some of the individualistic mentality guys then ship em out.

Goes for every single player on the team. If you're putting your personal stats on a pedastal over everything else, buh-bye.

It's terrifying and sad that Eric Francis can throw stuff out as click-bate and it can (this easily) seep into the minds of fans. He said it a few weeks ago and now it's starting to get repeated like this more and more.

It's going to be a long summer.

[Toonage]

What does Francis care? According to him, he won't even be covering this team in a few years time so why bother worrying about it?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

It's terrifying and sad that Eric Francis can throw stuff out as click-bate and it can (this easily) seep into the minds of fans. He said it a few weeks ago and now it's starting to get repeated like this more and more.

It's going to be a long summer.

Sure is going to be a long summer.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

It's terrifying and sad that Eric Francis can throw stuff out as click-bate and it can (this easily) seep into the minds of fans. He said it a few weeks ago and now it's starting to get repeated like this more and more.

It's going to be a long summer.

I’ve had this view for a long time. Nothing to do with Francis

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Poe969

It's not saying because he's not Crosby or Kopitar or Toews, it's because he doesn't have one of those guys. Kane is great but the Hawks wouldn't have won with Toews.

Johnny needs another elite player to play with, I don't think it's Monahan.

That has nothing to do with the suggestion you can't win with Gaudreau.

And I've got news for you. If you're pining for one of the top five to ten centres in the NHL, you're not landing them in a trade.

You win with many elements, and having one of the best offensive wingers in the NHL certainly isn't a detriment.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Toonage

What does Francis care? According to him, he won't even be covering this team in a few years time so why bother worrying about it?

Because he's the media equivalent of an ambulance chaser.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

When you hear other coaches and stuff talking about how hard it is to play and coach in Calgary, it's specifically because of guys like Francis. He's really doing the team and the city a disservice with his melodramatic and often polar divisive articles.
His source is just as likely the issue as the people he names.

Every hockey market has guys like Francis. The reason coaches and GMs find it hard to work in Calgary is the meddling and impatient owner and president.

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

It's terrifying and sad that Eric Francis can throw stuff out as click-bate and it can (this easily) seep into the minds of fans. He said it a few weeks ago and now it's starting to get repeated like this more and more.

Francis isn't the only one to make comments about the Flames' emotional makeup. Friedman has said the same thing, and cited comments from other hockey insiders.

This would be far from the first NHL core that had to be shaken up because of attitude issues.

[Roof-Daddy]

Flames have 99 problems and Gaudreau ain't one.

Unbelievable some of you.