[Signing] Official: Flames sign Brodie to 5 year contract extension ($4.65mil AAV, limited NTC)

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by redforever

Don't think so. Phaneuf was being mentored by Roman Hamrlik and they were a pretty good combo. Phaneuf learned a lot from Hamrlik.

Hamrlik was traded the next year and then Phaneuf basically had all the weight on his shoulders.

He needed another year or two of mentoring by an established defenseman.

Plus, Phaneuf has a pretty big ego...one that gets in his way sometimes.

I don't know why, but Phaneuf never learned, and never improved from his rookie year. Kind of crazy if you think about... Brodie OTOH, I still remember his 1st NHL game... guy has definately improved and on the upward trajectory.

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[Arya Stark]

Earlier on the fan, someone said he was overpaid but I missed who it was, anyone know who it was? Not sure how anyone who has watched Brodie can think he'll be overpaid.

[Mr.Coffee]

this is a great contract from a Flames perspective, and 5 years is about the maximum I'd want to see anyone signed for.

Too long = too little incentive to play. Sure you may get lower dollars, you will most likely also get a less motivated player. There's a reason people perform (or seem to) in contract years.

[Canada 02]

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Ahh, but he's got a point, though. I really don't know why people like MMF's drivel posts.

All he does is sit and pick apart other posters and their comments rather than actually contribute anything at all to the discussions at hand. Often in an obvious attempt at being funny or witty, but he tries way too hard. And yet people eat it right up. It probably is an overcompensation after being the brunt of the joke much of his life. But don't give a desperate attention whore what he wants. Never do that. We need to force him to give up his little act already.

He came at me yesterday playing the rhetorical passive aggressive game, tried to reason with him like a man, he wouldn't compromise so I put him on the ignore list. If he disagrees with you he'll hold a grudge permanently, I'd just avoid him if he's directing his venom at you, can't be reasoned with. His joking is passive aggressive which is probably why you feel it's so off putting.

[MrMastodonFarm]

I wish Brodie would have kept #66, looked good on him, made Pens fans upset, so that was good too.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Brodie OTOH, I still remember his 1st NHL game... guy has definately improved and on the upward trajectory.

Remember that first season where he got sent back to Abby early and we were all flipping our ####?

Worth it. This kid is the real deal.

[Vulcan]

I'm a huge Brodie fan. I like to watch him avoid hits while 90% of the time come out of the corner with the puck. His decision making is great as well. Brodie and Gio are like a well oiled machine who win battles despite not being the biggest guys. To tell the truth I use to be afraid for Brodie's health when a big forward came at him but he just rolls off them. The other thing I forget is that he plays on the wrong side, so much of his clearing passes are on his back hand, which is more difficult.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Not sure who is saying this deal was an overpayment, but that would be wrong IMO. But so is anyone who's saying its a steal for the Flames. It's neither. Not me this deal is exactly what it should be which is fair on both sides. Length and pay seem right. Both sides giving up a little, while both sides also taking in some risk assuming continued growth. If Brodie doesn't continue to improve at his current rate, Flames might be looking at this as a little rich early on. If Brodie does continue to improve, it's going to look like a steal and Brodie will be underpaid come the end of it.

Both sides giving a little and taking on some risk to come to a good deal, the way it should be for a young player you have faith in and the way it should be for an org that has invested well in a players development to date.

[Wastedyouth]

Such an awesome deal, for both sides. If Brodie keeps trending up, and every metric in the world indicates this is continuing, this will be a massive massive steal for 5 years.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Not surprising that someone who doesn't see the west much might think that.

Doesn't make him any less wrong though.

Well, to be accurate, playing with Giordano has obvious benefits for Brodie. But to flippantly dismiss Brodie's growth, simply because Giordano is awesome, is incredibly simplistic and foolish.

In fact, I would take it in the other direction and say that, so far this year, Brodie has been the one driving the pair as often as not.

Brodie is a far better offensive player then Gio when you look at each players skill set. In my opinion, he'll be driving the pair in that regard in a very short time.

[fanman]

Ummm........
I really like this signing. Looking forward to seeing Brodie and Gio play together for many years!

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by chummer

Listening to Boomer Gordon on XM radio today he thought the Flames overpaid for Brodie.
No big surprise as Boomer has taken many shots at the Flames.

Didn't really say why he thought Brodie was overpaid except he is benefiting from playing with Giordano. He used the Batman Robin analogy basically calling Brodie the Robin of the two.

Pretty frustrating considering how little he watches the west and the Flames.

I have to think anyone who thinks we overpaid for Brodie are making judgements based on EA Sports ratings and not reality.

Brodie has played his best hockey with Giordano, it's true. Who has Giordano played BY FAR the best hockey of his career with? The answer is pretty obvious. They are an excellent duo and neither of them are as good without the other.

Brodie, on his own, looks confident and skilled out there. He joins the rush like Paul Coffey used to and is practically never caught out of position. He has wheels. He has great instincts on both sides of the puck. This is a player we want here for a long, long time.

Congrats T.J.! And congrats to BigBrodieFan, who must be really proud.

[Wastedyouth]

I hope you all had a wonderous TJ Bro-day!

[endeavor]

It feels good to have a tandem like Gio (pending) and Brodie locked up for the foreseeable future. Need that stability in the back end.

They will also be a great pair to learn from for the other D prospects.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Gotta say it, I like Treliving's style so far. This looks like a really solid deal for both sides, and it was handled quickly. Great work, sends the right signals to the young guys on the team that work their assess off and show improvement - is Backlund next? I hope this level headed deal making continues.

Can someone explain to me how the Brodin deal was a significant anchor and domino for this as many in the media are trying to support? They're both really different structures. I think Brodie's deal is nicer because it continues progressing into his UFA years, which psychologically has to make the guy feel like there is more in store if he earns it. Brodin's has a peak in the middle of the contract and the last two years step down. I get that financially that has a little greater value to the player, but it just looks ugly and feels wrong.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I hope you all had a wonderous TJ Bro-day!

Did Nenshi declare a civic holiday?! Sweet!

[Rerun]

We definitely didn't overpay for Brodie. We got a deal. Anyone who thinks otherwise obviously hasn't spent much time watching him....

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I don't know why, but Phaneuf never learned, and never improved from his rookie year. Kind of crazy if you think about...

I disagree. Phaneuf was nothing short of phenomenal in his second season, and he also looked really good in the playoffs that year. It's been said a number of times before, but I still think that injuries he sustained that year had an irreversible negative impact on his career.