[Signing] Official: Flames sign Brodie to 5 year contract extension ($4.65mil AAV, limited NTC)

[sureLoss]

Based on Friedman's comments salary breakdown likely to be:

Year 1 $3.25 million
Year 2 $5 million
Year 3 $5 million
Year 4 $5 million
Year 5 $5 million

[edn88]

Pretty good deal for both sides. Good work Brad (and TJ).

[OldDutch]

This is a great deal no question. Good for Brodie. Also, big props to Brad Treliving and Brian Burke for creating an atmosphere where players are willing to trust their career to. Make no mistake, Brodie could have went minimum term to get UFA cash in with any other team. This shows he likes where the Flames are headed with him, and the Flames are respecting that with a respectable contract.

Really happy for Brodie, but more happy about the positive signal this sends about the club. Can only help us going forward in acquiring, retaining, and growing talent.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Quick question, is Brodie the best draft pick from the Sutter regime (Phaneuf in second and Backlund third)? Maybe I'm crazy for saying he's already better than Dion, but considering how well he's done the last year and the superior competition he faces in the west, I think he's a better dman.

To take it one step further, Brodie was the 4th rounder that we received when Ference was traded to Boston. That trade today is Ference and Kobasew for Stuart, Primeau and Brodie.

Looks pretty good now.

[killer_carlson]

Can we also say that Brodie is the second best pick from the Sutter era?

Dion #1 and Brodie #2?

[codynw]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Can we also say that Brodie is the second best pick from the Sutter era?

Dion #1 and Brodie #2?

Phaneuf isn't even better. Maybe he was at one point, but today? Not even close.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Can we also say that Brodie is the second best pick from the Sutter era?

Dion #1 and Brodie #2?

I'd say they're almost even, given the fact that a gorilla on LSD could have picked Dion in that 9th overall spot. Brodie was picked in the 4th round... MUCH, MUCH harder to evaluate and identify.

[terminator]

Brodie was a fluke pick this should be glaringly obvious.

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by terminator

Brodie was a fluke pick this should be glaringly obvious.

I disagree, IMO the scouting staff saw something they liked in Brodie. He's overachieved, but they liked his potential and drafted him... that's not a fluke.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by Plett25

I disagree, IMO the scouting staff saw something they liked in Brodie. He's overachieved, but they liked his potential and drafted him... that's not a fluke.

Disagree. I'd call it a fluke. Just like Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Sometimes it just works out.

If a team liked someone that much, they would take them a lot earlier.

Can't always give scouting mad props and credit. Just glad we got a pick that worked out for once.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

Disagree. I'd call it a fluke. Just like Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Sometimes it just works out.

If a team liked someone that much, they would take them a lot earlier.

Can't always give scouting mad props and credit. Just glad we got a pick that worked out for once.

Obviously they didn't expect him to be this good, but they wouldn't have drafted him if they didn't see something they liked.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by terminator

Brodie was a fluke pick this should be glaringly obvious.

I don't think there is such thing as a fluke pick.

Each and every pick in a draft is a deliberate pick. You are choosing one of hundreds of guys. So why that one? The point of the draft is to build your hockey club. Ergo, each pick is made with the intention of choosing the player most likely to be beneficial to your hockey club.

Was Brodie a fluke pick? Not at all.
Brodie's development may be unexpected, but the fact remains that Brodie was the one player chosen out of hundreds available at that point in the draft, because he was viewed as the most likely to be beneficial to the Calgary Flames.

That's how it's done. It's not even like he was the only good late-round pick. Nyquist, Spurgeon, Tokarski, Lindback, Bartkowski, Atkinson, and Wingels were all taken after him.

Brodie was no fluke. There is no such thing as a fluke pick. You pick the player you think is going to be the best out of the players available.

[heep223]

How could you ever say a draft pick is a fluke or not a fluke? And what's the point of doing so? Every single pick probably has some element of scouting skill and some element of luck.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by codynw

Obviously they didn't expect him to be this good, but they wouldn't have drafted him if they didn't see something they liked.

I agree. Hence, fluke how good he turned out to be. Just my opinion.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

I don't think there is such thing as a fluke pick.

Each and every pick in a draft is a deliberate pick. You are choosing one of hundreds of guys. So why that one? The point of the draft is to build your hockey club. Ergo, each pick is made with the intention of choosing the player most likely to be beneficial to your hockey club.

Was Brodie a fluke pick? Not at all.
Brodie's development may be unexpected, but the fact remains that Brodie was the one player chosen out of hundreds available at that point in the draft, because he was viewed as the most likely to be beneficial to the Calgary Flames.

That's how it's done. It's not even like he was the only good late-round pick. Nyquist, Spurgeon, Tokarski, Lindback, Bartkowski, Atkinson, and Wingels were all taken after him.

Brodie was no fluke. There is no such thing as a fluke pick. You pick the player you think is going to be the best out of the players available.

Yes they thought he was the best of what was left, but no one thought he'd be this good

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Yes they thought he was the best of what was left, but no one thought he'd be this good

Hard to say.
I believe when drafting you see the potential of the player combined with the likelihood of them reaching that potential. Did anyone think him being a top pairing defenceman was a lock? I can't imagine. But does that mean nobody saw that potential? I doubt it entirely.

I think there's a difference between expecting a player to be a top pairing D, and seeing that it's possible. If Brodie were to become a top pairing D a year or two after being drafted I could see the argument for it being a fluke pick, but it's taken him 6 years. That's a lot of development time. A lot of work put in by both the player and team.

I think he likely exceeded expectations, but did not exceed considered possibility. Plenty of top guys are drafted in late round almost every year, so each year you're looking for that one.

Just my opinion anyway.

[sureLoss]

Just out of curiosity went back and checked...

Brodie was ranked the 154th North American skater for the 2008 draft by central scouting.

When you factor in European skaters and goalies that would have projected to be around a 6th round pick or later

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

I agree. Hence, fluke how good he turned out to be. Just my opinion.

Or, possibly we have a good developmental system. I mean, it doesn't rival Edmonton's which is tops in the league according to MacT, but we're a close 2nd.

[East Coast Flame]

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Just out of curiosity went back and checked...

Brodie was ranked the 154th North American skater for the 2008 draft by central scouting.

When you factor in European skaters and goalies that would have projected to be around a 6th round pick or later

Its weird he was ranked so low. He was always a great skater and put up decent offensive numbers. He was small weight wise, but reasonable height wise.

Wonder what the concerns were...