Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Bean, Hanifin, Fluery and Lindholm ??

Laine, Connors, Ehlers and Morrisey

Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Gauthier and Morgan Rielly?

Puljujarvi, Mcdavid, Drasitl, Nurse

Keller, Strome, Pernelli, Domi

Juolevi, Boeser, Virtanen, Horvat

Nylander, Eichel, Rienhart, Ristolainen

even the Flames: Tkachuk,(Hamilton), Bennett, Monahan

Tufte, Gurianov, Honka, Nichushkin

Cholowski, Sveshnikov, Larkin, Mantha

Kunin, Ek-Eriksson, Tuch, Dumba

Sergachev, Juulsen, Scharback, McCarron

McLeod, Zacha, Quneville, Meatteau

Pulock, Dal Colle, Barzal, Bellows

There's other teams but they didn't have their first like LA/Hawks/Pit etc..How many of those packages would you take for Gaudreau?

Bottom feeder isn't going to offer sheet him. One of the better teams would, who's picks will be mid to late so there won't be Eichel/Laine/Matthews etc.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Tufte, Gurianov, Honka, Nichushkin

Cholowski, Sveshnikov, Larkin, Mantha

Kunin, Ek-Eriksson, Tuch, Dumba

Sergachev, Juulsen, Scharback, McCarron

McLeod, Zacha, Quneville, Meatteau

Pulock, Dal Colle, Barzal, Bellows

There's other teams but they didn't have their first like LA/Hawks/Pit etc..How many of those packages would you take for Gaudreau?

Bottom feeder isn't going to offer sheet him. One of the better teams would, who's picks will be mid to late so there won't be Eichel/Laine/Matthews etc.

How many of the better teams would have the cap space?

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Zevo

How many of the better teams would have the cap space?

Exactly, so forget about offer sheets.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

I just want Johnny to sign so freaking Gaudreauvertime stops posting. I mean what reason could a player agent have to post here after the pen hits paper?

[Vinny01]

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Zevo

How many of the better teams would have the cap space?

Or the picks? Lots of them have traded them already.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

That's crazy talk. You listed a few team recent draft picks who had lottery teams, how about from good to great teams?

More often than not, 1st round picks don't end up becoming career NHLers, let alone impact players, let alone superstar players.

The certainty of bringing in a young superstar like Gaudreau would be a very easy decision for a lot of teams. Especially when you add in the fact that he can literally increase the value of other players, something we've seen only very special players do. I don't think we'd be getting Shinkaruk for Granlund if he didn't have that stretch with Johnny. I don't think Hudler was really worth a 2nd and 4th round pick? Jooris probably shouldn't even be in the NHL, yet he just signed a deal with the Rangers.



You really think Treliving would have been fired for trading a 2016 1st instead of a 2015 1st? Most people thought the Flames would be a playoff team again last year . . .

I think you are completely off base.

Tkachuk and 2 2nds for Hamilton.... You're fired


Teams don't trade future 1st round picks..... Carey price could get hurt.

[Cactus Jack]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Why is there such a thing as RFA status then? Why did the league and the PA bargain over it? For that matter, why have ELCs? If a rookie is as good as a 6 year vet, why not pay them that way?

Originally Posted by Jacks

Different situration. When McJesus is ready to sign his next contract he will be offer sheet eligible and 29 teams will be happy to give up 4 x 1sts as compensation. If the grease don't sign him to a huge contract he can sign an offer sheet for 10M x 4 years, or whatever gets him to UFA status. Gaudreau doesn't have that leverage.

RFA status is linked to the draft to control entry of top talent into the league at 18 (think way back to when the Habs had virtual dibs on all top Quebec talent). I know Johnny doesn´t have the rights and leverage McSqueezie would have but his trump card is always to sit out. Now, that benefits absolutely no one, a lose-lose situation. I don´t think we should give him 8 but we all want Johnny around for a long time and for that to happen you have to ensure a good relationship long-term. Hopefully we find a happy medium but you have to pay top talent market value or they go elsewhere.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

You think? Because frankly I take that package for Johnny without hesitation.
Jo Levi looks like he will be a solid dman, probably a 2 or 3
Hovart has been over-rated but he is a good player that could mature into an excellent two way forward
Boeser is the prize here in my view. Could be a top line player
And then Virtanen is a wild card.

That's 4 SOLID pieces.

other mods, you guys have a bit of a situation. Jiri's account has been hacked by benning

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

You think? Because frankly I take that package for Johnny without hesitation.
Jo Levi looks like he will be a solid dman, probably a 2 or 3
Hovart has been over-rated but he is a good player that could mature into an excellent two way forward
Boeser is the prize here in my view. Could be a top line player
And then Virtanen is a wild card.

That's 4 SOLID pieces.

Yes, they're solid all of the. Yet Johnny makes a larger impact on his team than all 4. He's a game changer. You need one or two of those types to be a contender. Those 4 are the kind of guys you surround a Gaudreau with. But they won't replace what Gaudreau brings.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Or the picks? Lots of them have traded them already.

No they all have their next 4 1st round picks because nobody will give away a future 1st round pick before they know it is not going to be a lottery pick.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

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Eklund chimes in

More like a gong than a chime.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yes it surely must be very stressful wondering if you are going to make 65 dollars over the next 8 years or 55M.
That would keep me up.
I rarely object to what hockey players make but it should NEVER be termed as their financial future being on any sort of brink.
What is likely stressful is that he doesn't know if it will get done before he's supposed to be in camp or not. That's what is stressful.
There sure as sh** ain't no financial brink here.

Originally Posted by saillias

other mods, you guys have a bit of a situation. Jiri's account has been hacked by benning

I am totally in agreement with Jiri - I would take that return in a second. With it...

C depth (only considering youth and prospects):

Monahan
Bennett
Horvat
Jankowski
Pollock
Lindstrom

LW depth (after loss of Johnny):

Tkachuk
Shinkaruk
Mangiapane
Ferland
Dube

RW depth:

Boeser
Virtanen
Poirier
Pribyl
Phillips
Tuulola

D depth:

Brodie
Hamilton
Juolevi
Kylington
Andersson
Hickey
Wotherspoon
Kulak
Fox

G depth:

Gillies
Parsons
MacDonald
Schneider
Riddich

We would be deep at every position.

C would be set for at least a decade. And we would have Backlund as a trading chip to acquire another winger.

The defense would be the deepest in the league. We could easily trade one of those top prospects for a winger if need be.

And RW would go from being the weakest position to being very deep. With Brouwer, Frolik and Chiasson already in the fold, we could be patient to see who rises to the top from that group. If necessary, we have multiple trading chips to acquire another good RW.

That team would be set for a very long time.

[TheScorpion]

Not every position, Enoch Root. That RW prospect depth chart is as raw as a blue steak in comparison to other positions.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

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About damn time!

[polak]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I am totally in agreement with Jiri - I would take that return in a second. With it...

C depth (only considering youth and prospects):

Monahan
Bennett
Horvat
Jankowski
Pollock
Lindstrom

LW depth (after loss of Johnny):

Tkachuk
Shinkaruk
Mangiapane
Ferland
Dube

RW depth:

Boeser
Virtanen
Poirier
Pribyl
Phillips
Tuulola

D depth:

Brodie
Hamilton
Juolevi
Kylington
Andersson
Hickey
Wotherspoon
Kulak
Fox

G depth:

Gillies
Parsons
MacDonald
Schneider
Riddich

We would be deep at every position.

C would be set for at least a decade. And we would have Backlund as a trading chip to acquire another winger.

The defense would be the deepest in the league. We could easily trade one of those top prospects for a winger if need be.

And RW would go from being the weakest position to being very deep. With Brouwer, Frolik and Chiasson already in the fold, we could be patient to see who rises to the top from that group. If necessary, we have multiple trading chips to acquire another good RW.

That team would be set for a very long time.

God no. That would be the worst team in the league. By Far. Unless all of your prospects panned out.

You place A LOT of faith in Bennett, Tkachuk, Shinkaruk, Poirier, Mangiapane, Boeser, Virtanen panning out. Bennett is the only guy in that group that has shown that he can play at an NHL level consistently and so far he's just as likely to pan out as a middle 6'er as he is a #1C.

Tkachuk - Monahan - Boeser
Shinkaruk - Bennett - Virtanen
Mangiapane - Horvat - Poirier
Ferland - Jankowski - Pribyl

Three of your players on offense are good shots to make the NHL or have made it. THREE.

Terrible Terrible idea.

It's like Dion Phaneuf all over again except Gaudreau doesn't suck.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I am totally in agreement with Jiri - I would take that return in a second.

Of course you are.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Yes, they're solid all of the. Yet Johnny makes a larger impact on his team than all 4. He's a game changer. You need one or two of those types to be a contender. Those 4 are the kind of guys you surround a Gaudreau with. But they won't replace what Gaudreau brings.

They won't replace exactly what Gaudreau brings, but do they need to? Boeser is a solid bet to be a Filip Forsberg level star player, Horvat can play C but could also lot in on Bennett's RW while taking faceoffs on the right side, and Juolevi could either become Dougie Hamilton's partner on the second pair for the next decade or be flipped for whatever team need remains.

Oh yeah I guess Virtanen could be decent. He can skate.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by polak

Tkachuk - Monahan - Boeser
Shinkaruk - Bennett - Virtanen
Mangiapane - Horvat - Poirier
Ferland - Jankowski - Pribyl

What? Try:

Tkachuk-Bennett-Boeser
Mangiapane-Monahan-Horvat
Frolik-Backlund-Brouwer
Ferland-Jankowski-Virtanen

Giordano-Brodie
Juolevi-Hamilton
Hickey-Andersson

[FBI]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

What? Try:

Tkachuk-Bennett-Boeser
Mangiapane-Monahan-Horvat
Frolik-Backlund-Brouwer
Ferland-Jankowski-Virtanen

Brodie-Gaudreau
Juolevi-Hamilton
Hickey-Andersson

Sweet we traded Johnny and still got him back for D!