Really ... Was his face being punched when he played last year for absolutely the most 1.85M... probably closer to 1M as the usual performance bonuses are tied to winning trophies?
That is just the negotiated business rules.
Basically the Flames have to pay him 1 M for 2016-17. He can accept it or sit out and remain Flames property. He doesn't have a lot of viable options.
A 3M x 2 is basically a 4M gift to show good-will.
It is weird that hockey teams are expected to give large contracts to players with no leverage. Baseball teams don't offer much more than they have to when players are under team control unless they are buying out UFA years and no one usually sits out or complains.
Not necessarily, the core could be roughly the same, like what we've seen from Pittsburgh and Chicago. Gaudreau, Brodie, Bennett, Monahan, Tkachuk could be the next Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabrook or Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury etc, both cores have lasted for 8+ years.
You can list any teams core and make the same assertion. Doesn't make the comparison at all valid. after the 1st season of the key players of the Pitts/Chi core these teams have had 10 and 8 straight playoff seasons.
What is the difference between the Jets and the Flames for instance.... Are you expecting a 8 year dynasty from the Jets based on what they have done so far? They have been pretty well exactly even with the Flames over the last 2 seasons and their core (Byfuglien, Trouba, Myers, Scheifele, Ehlers, Wheeler, Laine and Hellebucyk) might not be as good as what the Flames have put together but might be better.
The Pittsburgh and Chicago core never went and finished in 26th spot like the Calgary (and Jets) core (Gio,Brodie,Hamilton,Monahan,Gaudreau,Bennett) has just done.
Any talk of giving him $3 or 4M for this season and risk someone signing him to an offer sheet next July? Might be worth taking the picks and moving on. Based on all the rhetoric from family and whatnot, he clearly would prefer to be in the East.
I'd almost prefer that to signing a player with less than 100 games to a monster contract based on one really good season.
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Anyone who can't see the fact that Gaudreau is worth every penny of a $8M/yr contract has lost their mind. I'm sure the Flames feel he's worth that much too, if not more.
That's not what's happening here. This is called a negotiation and the Flames, as any team should, are trying to save every last dollar they can using the power of the CBA. They're a business after all.
Please don't confuse the Flames lack of willingness to give him $8m a year with the team not believing that he's worth that much. He's worth it to them in the value he's going to bring the Franchise off the ice alone.
You think Monahan is worth $6.375 m / yr to the Flames ? The fact is that's worth a lot more to them but that's just his contract.
Don't get emotional with the business of the sport. It is exactly that....a business.
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Any talk of giving him $3 or 4M for this season and risk someone signing him to an offer sheet next July? Might be worth taking the picks and moving on. Based on all the rhetoric from family and whatnot, he clearly would prefer to be in the East.
I'd almost prefer that to signing a player with less than 100 games to a monster contract based on one really good season.
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It's not his fault. Some people just don't get it. I've felt from watching JG play Year 1 Boston College that he had star potential. His skill is NHL elite and he has the skating to go with it. That is the making of a superstar. Usually players have one or the other and never quite put it together. People don't understand the difference.
Please don't confuse the Flames lack of willingness to give him $8m a year with the team not believing that he's worth that much. He's worth it to them in the value he's going to bring the Franchise off the ice alone.
Exactly!
The $6.5M-$7.0M crowd aren't saying he's not worth $8M+, we're just saying we don't have to pay him that much so doing so is dumb.
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Any talk of giving him $3 or 4M for this season and risk someone signing him to an offer sheet next July? Might be worth taking the picks and moving on. Based on all the rhetoric from family and whatnot, he clearly would prefer to be in the East.
I'd almost prefer that to signing a player with less than 100 games to a monster contract based on one really good season.
If it is a 1 year deal it would be for 1M. Let him set market value next year with an offer sheet. The Flames get to match.
If the offersheet is for more than 7.3 M then the compensation is 2 1sts a 2nd and a third. That is only if the Flames don't match.
If he has a great season and gets a 9Mx6 offer that the Flames match the end result would be the Flames getting him for 55M for 7 years. That comes to 7.86 avv for 7 years.
Anything over 9.2M compensation is 4 1st round picks...
Winning teams with over even 8M of cap space is a very very short list.... ie the draft picks are liable to be very good.
If it is a 1 year deal it would be for 1M. Let him set market value next year with an offer sheet. The Flames get to match.
If the offersheet is for more than 7.3 M then the compensation is 2 1sts a 2nd and a third. That is only if the Flames don't match.
If he has a great season and gets a 9Mx6 offer that the Flames match the end result would be the Flames getting him for 55M for 7 years. That comes to 7.86 avv for 7 years.
Anything over 9.2M compensation is 4 1st round picks...
Winning teams with over even 8M of cap space is a very very short list.... ie the draft picks are liable to be very good.
Don't forget that if the offer sheet is over 5 years, you still only divide the total contract value by 5 to determine compensation. So even 7x$8.5M works out to $11.9M for compensation purposes and 4 1sts.
It's not his fault. Some people just don't get it. I've felt from watching JG play Year 1 Boston College that he had star potential. His skill is NHL elite and he has the skating to go with it. That is the making of a superstar. Usually players have one or the other and never quite put it together. People don't understand the difference.
Gaudreau is going to be a superstar. Book it.
Remember when the team was a disaster at the start of the 2015-16 season?
Remember how Gaudreau stepped up and carried the team through this mess?
Neither do I.
Flames start the season 2-8-1 Both wins in OT Gaudreau kicked in 1 goal.
Playoffs hopes - done.
These were in games that the Flames were getting beaten by 4 goals (4x) and 3 goals twice.... ie not tight checking games.
8-10 M players are expected to carry their team through these bad spots.
