Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think any deal that comes in with a cap hit over $7.5 is pretty bad.

8 x $7.25m is fine with me.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hes

Google: Acrimonious. Oh.. thats not good.

While I tend to believe his reporting about the gap between parties I don't think he has any idea about the prevalent feelings of either side in this negotiation. It sounded to me like he was speculating about the current temperature simply based on the figures and the time it has taken to get to this point.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Eric Francis just called the situation "acrimonious."

I would agree with him.

The recent stories would suggest at least one side has gone the media route.

Treliving has never done that in the past and I doubt he would now.

The ESPN article screams that he is doing the agent's bidding - pretty standard tactic when attempting to escalate negotiations.

Very unfortunate, because escalation leads to acrimony, which often results in strained relations.

Really surprised that Gaudreau would go that route

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Eric Francis just called the situation "acrimonious."

I'm surprised Francis even knows what that word means.

Actually now that I think about it, I'm sure he's looked up every single word that puts a negative tone on something. It's what he does.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Teroy

I don't care what the market value supposedly is. The amount of money we pay athletes to play kid's games is ridiculous. I hope the Flames stand their ground and move him if they can't get a reasonable deal. All of you who are prepared to spend the bank will be bitching big time if he doesn't live up to your expectations.

Because you learn the game as a kid doesn't make it a kids game, professional athletes deserve their share of the pie because they are the ones providing the product.

If anything the rest of the world is wrong, the Walton family bring home over $10 billion annually yet 99% of their employees make minimum wage and are starving.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I would agree with him.

The recent stories would suggest at least one side has gone the media route.

Treliving has never done that in the past and I doubt he would now.

The ESPN article screams that he is doing the agent's bidding - pretty standard tactic when attempting to escalate negotiations.

Very unfortunate, because escalation leads to acrimony, which often results in strained relations.

Really surprised that Gaudreau would go that route

A lot of people were surprised.he trademarked"Johnny Hockey" but.his agent thought it would be a good idea. Johnny and his family clearly trust Lewis Gross and feel he is doing what is best for Johnny and in my opinion he is doing what he can to get leverage in a situation where he has none

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I would agree with him.

The recent stories would suggest at least one side has gone the media route.

Treliving has never done that in the past and I doubt he would now.

The ESPN article screams that he is doing the agent's bidding - pretty standard tactic when attempting to escalate negotiations.

Very unfortunate, because escalation leads to acrimony, which often results in strained relations.

Really surprised that Gaudreau would go that route

If it was Gaudreau's camp it's not smart. While really engaged and knowledgable fans can debate figuers like $8M, the general public/casual fan will just say "he wants what???"

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Hes

Google: Acrimonious. Oh.. thats not good.

I also googled it. The guy who used to word should have done everyone the service of posting the meaning, so I'll go ahead:

ac·ri·mo·ni·ous
ˌakrəˈmōnēəs/
adjective
adjective: acrimonious
(typically of speech or a debate) angry and bitter.
"an acrimonious dispute about wages"
synonyms:bitter, angry, rancorous, caustic, acerbic, scathing, sarcastic, acid, harsh, sharp, cutting;

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Weitz

If Gaudreau was pushing for a bridge compared to long term as reported would it take this long?

Personally if I were Gaudreau I'd push for a 2-3 year bridge if I was wanting to maximize earnings. Doesn't appear that is his main concern at least.

www.calgarypuck.com/2016/09/a-bridge-over-troubled-water-gaudreaus-contract/

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I also googled it. The guy who used to word should have done everyone the service of posting the meaning, so I'll go ahead:

ac·ri·mo·ni·ous

*sigh* This isn't some archaic word that isn't in use anymore. At what point did we just stop expecting people to have a working knowledge of the English language?

[Manhattanboy]

Interesting developments today - you have to wonder which side provided Francis with the current gap. I doubt it was the Flames but that Conroy - he's a talker!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

So Johnny and the Flames are 1.5 million apart (Eric Francis)?

I'm guessing the Flames are at 6.9 million, and Johnny is at 8.4 million.

If you read the article he spells it out - the Flames are between Mony's and Gio's (which makes it about $6.5) and Gaudreau is "around $8M".

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/09/08...-as-15-million

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

*sigh* This isn't some archaic word that isn't in use anymore. At what point did we just stop expecting people to have a working knowledge of the English language?

I get acrimonious and sanctimonious mixed up sometimes. So sue me.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I get acrimonious and sanctimonious mixed up sometimes.

Well, you shouldn't.

[GioforPM]

Gross was once accused of agreeing to something way too low (for John LeClair):

http://a.espncdn.com/nhl/columns/parent_rob/893516.html

Of course, he then got him $9M per season starting in 2001!

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

*sigh* This isn't some archaic word that isn't in use anymore. At what point did we just stop expecting people to have a working knowledge of the English language?

As I was clicking "Thanks" I thought to myself, "Self. This should be a textcritic post." and who do I see also thanked it after I clicked? LMAO

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Well, you shouldn't.

Ok now you are just being sanctimonious.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Eric Francis just called the situation "acrimonious."

Oh Francis and his click-bait style reporting. This is a negotiation, it hasn't hit the 6 month hold out point where maybe it could start being considered acrimonious.

Johnny wants to stay in Calgary long term, they want him to stay. Based off his two years even if he plateaued now he is a top elite player in this league. If the Flames want him (and he wants them) for the majority of his best years he is going to want to get paid. This is his agent doing his job. As much as he shouldn't expect UFA money he also deserves top money and doesn't want to be top 2 in the league making 7 Mil while his peers now make 10 because they didn't sign for 8 years.

I also get the Flames side and wanting to get maximum value for their asset so they negotiate. Until the puck drops in October I don't see this being any more than that. Iginla held out early on and stuck around the team for another 10+ years so Francis is just trying to create a story out of a normal business transaction.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

*sigh* This isn't some archaic word that isn't in use anymore. At what point did we just stop expecting people to have a working knowledge of the English language?

My post was not intended as a slight at all. I like when people post words i am unaware of so that i can google them and improve my vocabulary.

I used to be quite a Linguophobe

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Hes

My post was not intended as a slight at all. I like when people post words i am unaware of so that i can google them and improve my vocabulary.

I used to be quite a Linguophobe

I was accused of being a lingouphobe once, there was an extensive trial, I was found not guiltyafter much deliberation and here we sit today