Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup

[monkeyman]

Gaudreauvertime hasn't posted for awhile. Good sign a deal is done?

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

My understanding is this changed and players can go on LTIR the day before rosters are set.

They've always been able to. The caveat is that when you put a guy on LTIR before opening day rosters are named, your maximum LTIR exemption is set at whatever you're over the cap at that moment and it can't be any higher. So if a team has a $5M guy who's injured and they're $1M over the cap, they only get to use $1M of his exemption. Conversely, if they demote $1M in salary on the last day of training camp, put the $5M injured player on the opening day roster, and then place him on LTIR on the first day of the season, they get to use his whole $5M.

On the other hand, if the team was $4M over the cap and it was impossible to demote enough players to get under the upper limit without LTIR, it'd make more sense to place the player on LTIR on the last day of training camp.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I can't see any way that the Bruins for Flyers would have been cap complaint on opening day when they had Savard and Pronger on LTIR.

Here's an article about the Flyers and Pronger a couple of years ago that explains the two options pretty well:

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...p-pronger-ltir

[oldschoolcalgary]

LTIR is pretty complicated.... that's why agents and lawyers and capologist make all their money!

found this explaination, which is pretty comprehensive (even though its a leafs site)

http://theleafsnation.com/2016/5/7/l...us-in-using-it

but addresses one of the points mentioned above:

Players can not be placed on long-term injured reserve until after training camps have ended. That means that during the off-season, including training camp, players like Stephane Robidas have their full cap hit count towards the league's upper limit. They can only be placed on LTIR once the season has started (which is one reason teams often perform a lot of roster moves on paper in the final day or two of training camp).

worth reading if you are interested

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Yeah, but he's the fifth highest paid defenceman in the NHL.

He sure as heck isn't the fifth best. He's getting paid for potential.

People are going to have start getting used to these new contracts and understanding that these young players will be getting overpaid in the front halts of their deals, with the hope that they will be value contracts come the back half. That's the way the NHL is going. So you can't look at a player on year 1 or 2 of a long term deal if it's their second contract and go they have to be equaling their salary spot for performance.

Everyone knows there's one notorious poster around here who simply doesn't seem to be able to wrap their head around this and all sorts of other contract differences based on status when signing, age etc.... and it's just going to get worse.

You can no longer go, 5th highest paid needs to equal 5th best player anymore, at least not with long term second contracts for young players. The NHL is very much changing to a pay for potential model.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Gaudreauvertime hasn't posted for awhile. Good sign a deal is done?

Unfortunately not. Why would you think that?

[FBI]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Gaudreauvertime hasn't posted for awhile. Good sign a deal is done?

Maybe he's finally on the phone with Treliving.

[GoJetsGo]

Can a mod check out Sun's claim?

There's so little positives so far, it would be good to know if there's any validity there.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Can a mod check out Sun's claim?

There's so little positives so far, it would be good to know if there's any validity there.

Could you not report it and ask them to, if that's what you want? Pretty sure they don't go through every thread looking for stuff to do.

[djsFlames]

We all probably should've taken Brad's word when he said "it'll get done"...just wish it got sorted out earlier.

I hope sun is right and pylon is wrong.

[stang]

Ok cap question... say the flames are .5 million over the cap before The season starts. But smid is going LTIR for some relief. Now they have to do a "paper demotion" to get under the cap. Why can't they just put Smid on waivers and demote him to the AHL? Is it because he's injured?

[KevanGuy]

We only need one thread for this. And the new one it is.