Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by zyzz

WHy else would he say "few years"

lol

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

The Gio cap exists. At least according to Elliot Friedman it does. Still, I have to believe the Flames know that they won't get Johnny signed below that number. It is time for the Gaudreau cap.

No according to Eric Francis it exists Friedman just relayed that information

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Not sure it works that way though - that's the point.

yes it does, teams can get the relief at any point during the injury

[DiracSpike]

Calling things "a distraction" is such a bogus term that no coach or executive takes seriously, and if anyone in the organization cited it as a reason the Flames could potentially lose games that would be a firable offense in my mind.

The other Flames want Johnny back I'm sure, but they're not up at night about it. The only people this situation is a distraction for are message boarders who should be working right now.

[jemjey]

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

Calling things "a distraction" is such a bogus term that no coach or executive takes seriously, and if anyone in the organization cited it as a reason the Flames could potentially lose games that would be a firable offense in my mind.

The other Flames want Johnny back I'm sure, but they're not up at night about it. The only people this situation is a distraction for are message boarders who should be working right now.

Not everyone works M-F, 9-5 you know

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Does anyone else have the sinking feeling that in truth he really just doesn't want to play in Calgary?

Yup.

And I've heard through a couple different pretty credible sources it is actually one of the big issues. If Calgary expects to lock him up here long term, it's gonna take giving him the keys to the bank vault.

And to be honest, if what I heard is true, why wouldn't he demand it? If it is his dream to play elsewhere, why wouldn't he demand a kings ransom to settle for playing here? No matter what anyone thinks, Johnny holds cards not the Flames. He's a clean cut college educated kid, no dummy, and knows what he's worth.

IMO he's worth Stamkos money. He's going to put up similar, if not better numbers than him the next 5-6 years... why shouldn't he be compensated for it? The game is massively shifting where you don't have 8-9 guys on the team 33+, and even if I was a young scorer in my prime, considered to be a near generational talent, I'd be making demands too.

If I'm BT, my cap is going to be the Stamkos contract. If that doesn't get it done, trade him.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by TomLeeMC

This thread just reached all time low.....

I am no fan but I always find it funny that "everyone" hates them but they are this biggest selling band around and their concerts are all sell outs.

Kind of like actually getting someone to admit they voted NDP.

[Ashasx]

Stamkos's contract is all UFA years. Gaudreau should not be the player setting the highest RFA contract value in the history of the league.

[Vinny01]

I dont get this not playing in Calgary thing. If he really didn't want to play here why didn't he finish his degree at BC, play his 4th year then sign a 2 year deal wherever he wanted instead to being "stuck" in Calgary for 7-10 years?

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by pylon

Yup.

And I've heard through a couple different pretty credible sources it is actually one of the big issues. If Calgary expects to lock him up here long term, it's gonna take giving him the keys to the bank vault.

And to be honest, if what I heard is true, why wouldn't he demand it? If it is his dream to play elsewhere, why wouldn't he demand a kings ransom to settle for playing here? No matter what anyone thinks, Johnny holds cards not the Flames. He's a clean cut college educated kid, no dummy, and knows what he's worth.

IMO he's worth Stamkos money. He's going to put up similar, if not better numbers than him the next 5-6 years... why shouldn't he be compensated for it? The game is massively shifting where you don't have 8-9 guys on the team 33+, and even if I was a young scorer in my prime, considered to be a near generational talent, I'd be making demands too.

If I'm BT, my cap is going to be the Stamkos contract. If that doesn't get it done, trade him.

Because Stamkos was a UFA and Gaudreau has 5 RFA years? Does that actually need repeating. I don't buy your sources at all to be honest. He has said several times he wants to play in Calgary, is always liking Flames related pictures on social media and the biggest telling point is he could have been an unrestricted free agent if he waited one more year in college.

Absolutely nothing points to him not wanting to play in Calgary. This is simply a money/term issue.

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I dont get this not playing in Calgary thing. If he really didn't want to play here why didn't he finish his degree at BC, play his 4th year then sign a 2 year deal wherever he wanted instead to being "stuck" in Calgary for 7-10 years?

Probably wanting to get his feet wet in the NHL, Calgary gave him the opportunity to showcase what he has. He would have been a big unknown to a lot of teams before he played his first season. No guarantee he would get a contract.

I'm hoping those rumors aren't true.

[polak]

All I know is if this ends with Johnny leaving whoever was the unreasonable party will become public enemy number 1 in this city.

Automatically add a couple years to the rebuild unless he can be replaced with equal offense driving talent (doubtful). I'm sorry but Sean Monahan can't be your best forward if you want to be competitive.

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by pylon

Yup.

And I've heard through a couple different pretty credible sources it is actually one of the big issues. If Calgary expects to lock him up here long term, it's gonna take giving him the keys to the bank vault.

And to be honest, if what I heard is true, why wouldn't he demand it? If it is his dream to play elsewhere, why wouldn't he demand a kings ransom to settle for playing here? No matter what anyone thinks, Johnny holds cards not the Flames. He's a clean cut college educated kid, no dummy, and knows what he's worth.

IMO he's worth Stamkos money. He's going to put up similar, if not better numbers than him the next 5-6 years... why shouldn't he be compensated for it? The game is massively shifting where you don't have 8-9 guys on the team 33+, and even if I was a young scorer in my prime, considered to be a near generational talent, I'd be making demands too.

If I'm BT, my cap is going to be the Stamkos contract. If that doesn't get it done, trade him.

Hope your wrong. Being a Flames fan is hard enough without having Johnny do that. It would be just be our luck that we would draft a franchise changing player in the 4th round and he turns out to be in the 1% of NHLers that wants to have their cake and eat it too.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Because Stamkos is a UFA and Gaudreau has 5 RFA years? I don't buy your sources at all to be honest. He has said several times he wants to play in Calgary, is always liking Flames related pictures on social media and the biggest telling point is he could have been an unrestricted free agent if he waited one more year in college.

Absolutely nothing points to him not wanting to play in Calgary. This is simply a money/term issue.

Based on the Saad contract I think the idea that Gaudreau is calling the shots is overblown. Saad was traded from a cup champ and signed for money way higher than he was worth. I bet if he could do a re-do he would have gotten Gross to bend a little on the dollars to not be stuck playing in Columbus Ohio on a perennial bottom feeder. This is simply a greedy agent in a player's ears.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by TomLeeMC

This thread just reached all time low.....

I think you spoke too soon. Still trending down...

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Stamkos's contract is all UFA years. Gaudreau should not be the player setting the highest RFA contract value in the history of the league.

I disagree. The league is going more in the "What have you done for me lately?" direction. Look how many guys can't get contracts now in their early 30's. I'd be looking for job security too.

I don't necessarily say I'm happy with Johnny's stance. But I cannot blame him. He is a special player. And his tires have been pumped more than any Flame ever, on both sides of the border. Iginla included.

IMO if he was Canadian, and not getting crazy coverage south of the border, the deal is already done. But he knows how much more marketable he is on the East Coast US.

Take the contract out of the equation even. He could be looking at couple million more in endorsements by signing south of the border. In Canada you get sponsored by McCain fruit punch "Elvis Stoyko goes for the gold, and gets GREAT taste!" or in his case Pizza 73. Tim Hortons if you are Sid the Kid hocking crappy cardboard sandwiches.

Down there it's a whole different ball game. Especially from the region he's from.

It would honestly be bad business sense for him to sign here, as bad as it sounds.

[Benched]

Originally Posted by pylon

Yup.

And I've heard through a couple different pretty credible sources it is actually one of the big issues. If Calgary expects to lock him up here long term, it's gonna take giving him the keys to the bank vault.

And to be honest, if what I heard is true, why wouldn't he demand it? If it is his dream to play elsewhere, why wouldn't he demand a kings ransom to settle for playing here? No matter what anyone thinks, Johnny holds cards not the Flames. He's a clean cut college educated kid, no dummy, and knows what he's worth.

IMO he's worth Stamkos money. He's going to put up similar, if not better numbers than him the next 5-6 years... why shouldn't he be compensated for it? The game is massively shifting where you don't have 8-9 guys on the team 33+, and even if I was a young scorer in my prime, considered to be a near generational talent, I'd be making demands too.

If I'm BT, my cap is going to be the Stamkos contract. If that doesn't get it done, trade him.

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by polak

All I know is if this ends with Johnny leaving whoever was the unreasonable party will become public enemy number 1 in this city.

Automatically add a couple years to the rebuild unless he can be replaced with equal offense driving talent (doubtful). I'm sorry but Sean Monahan can't be your best forward if you want to be competitive.

We'd never never know the full story either way, but the bottom line is if he is traded, it probably means Johnny himself was the architect behind the move. I'll forgive the Flames if it goes down that way, it would just be a shame. It would probably set us up for another 2-3 years of being out of the playoffs.

[Drak]

If Johnny goes like that, my Gaudreau jersey goes too.