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View Poll Results: Assuming a term of 7 years what will Gaudreau's AAV end up being?
6.500 - 6.625 9 1.28%
6.625 - 6.750 5 0.71%
6.750 - 6.875 21 2.99%
6.875 - 7.000 59 8.40%
7.000 - 7.125 89 12.68%
7.125 - 7.250 85 12.11%
7.250 - 7.375 112 15.95%
7.375 - 7.500 102 14.53%
7.500 - 7.625 71 10.11%
7.625 - 7.750 38 5.41%
7.750 - 7.875 39 5.56%
7.875 - 8.000 33 4.70%
8.000 - 8.125 21 2.99%
8.125 - 8.250 6 0.85%
8.250 - 8.375 1 0.14%
8.375 - 8.500 11 1.57%
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:30 PM   #2841
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Brad and Brian are shafting Johnny , why would he want to sign the deal ?
Johnny and Lewis are also shafting Brad. Why would he want to sign the deal?

...see what I did there.
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Brad and Brian are shafting Johnny , why would he want to sign the deal ?
Because it will make him wealthy?
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Conroy explicitly left US cities to play in Calgary and then permanently decided to stay in Calgary following his career as a player.

I could see JG being young and intimidated, if there's any substance to this notion of being an American in a Canadian culture. But frankly I don't buy it unless he has the personality of Tim Thomas
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Canadian teams make up 30 per cent of the franchises in the league. Only 10 per cent of star American players play on Canadian teams. Seems like a pretty clear disparity to me.

There are a variety of reasons why NHL stars prefer to play in the U.S. Climate, proximity to family (for Americans), taxes, media attention, ease of air travel (direct flights).

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I would be interested to see how many American players drafted by Canadian teams have opted to sign with US teams in free agency after their first or second contract.
I still think that this question needs to be addressed as a major factor in this discussion.
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During negotiations Gaudreau likes to put on his serious face and be called John.
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I agree with what you're saying, and I also wouldn't trade Johnny for Gostisbehere and Simmonds, but I wouldn't class Gostisbehere as a "support player" either.
I didn't mean 'support' as an average or bad player. I like both of those players and would love to have them on the Flames. But there's no rush to trade JG so if they did they better be getting at least a star back in return to make it worth their while.
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During negotiations Gaudreau likes to put on his serious face and be called John.
Like when a dude with long hair puts it in a ponytail.
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Only 2 of canada's world cup roster play for canadian market teams, and one of them was jsut traded there and hasn't played a game in their jersey yet.

Sounds like a conspiracy.
Yup, the World Cup roster with the fewest players from Canadian-based teams is Team Canada, and as you said, that number doubled with the Subban trade.

Should we be worried that Canadian players don't want to play in Canada now?


Fewer than 25% of the teams in the NHL are based in Canada (until the Thrashers moved to Winnipeg, it was an even 20%), and for the last decade two of them have been historically bad (and the others have had their weak seasons too). It shouldn't really be a surprise than Canadian teams aren't better represented at these tournaments.


Really, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter if 99.9% of US-born players say they do or don't want to play in Canada. All that matters is this one specific player.

Craig Conroy and Joel Otto are two US-born players who played for Team USA numerous times and played both in Canada and the US and both decided to retire in Calgary.
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Yup, the World Cup roster with the fewest players from Canadian-based teams is Team Canada, and as you said, that number doubled with the Subban trade.

Should we be worried that Canadian players don't want to play in Canada now?


Fewer than 25% of the teams in the NHL are based in Canada (until the Thrashers moved to Winnipeg, it was an even 20%), and for the last decade two of them have been historically bad (and the others have had their weak seasons too). It shouldn't really be a surprise than Canadian teams aren't better represented at these tournaments.


Really, at the end of the day, it really doesn't if 99.9% of US-born players say they do or don't want to play in Canada. All that matters is this one specific player.

Craig Conroy and Joel Otto are two US-born players who played for Team USA numerous times and played both in Canada and the US and both decided to retire in Calgary.
Rene Corbet is similar - he's a very Francophone Quebecker but settled here after a very limited time with the Flames.
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So he doesn't lose money maybe? If he sits out, he doesn't make money you know.
Yeah he knows that , and your problem is ?????
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Yeah he knows that , and your problem is ?????
He's not identifying a problem - he's identifying a reason Johnny would want to sign. Every day sitting out partially negates any gain in the contract amount.
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If Gaudreau isn't signed early into the season, he could theoretically sign in the KHL for a season like Giordano did and make up any lost money. I don't think he would hold out and not play anywhere and lose all that casheesh.
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The hot women thread looks pretty good right Now
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The hot women thread always looked pretty good.
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If you thought the 3 Goalie issue was a yuge distraction last year, Gaudreau's contract stalemate is going to be 10 times worse.
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This is easily my most hated thread on all of CP. I wish it was banned like the hot women thread.
The thing is that thread served no purpose, I can find hot women anywhere. But see I can't find this kind of comedy anywhere else, so this thread needs to stay.
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If you thought the 3 Goalie issue was a yuge distraction last year, Gaudreau's contract stalemate is going to be 10 times worse.
Was it a huge distraction to the players last year? I tend to think the early season performance would not have been much better with a standard rotation of any two of the three Flames goalies in 2015.
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I wonder how much of the delay is because Gaudreau and Kucherov's agents are both trying to wait until the other one is signed so they'll have a comparable to negotiate against?

I bet once one of them signs, the other will sign shortly after.
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