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View Poll Results: Assuming a term of 7 years what will Gaudreau's AAV end up being?
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6.500 - 6.625
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1.28% |
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6.625 - 6.750
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5 |
0.71% |
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6.750 - 6.875
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21 |
2.99% |
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6.875 - 7.000
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59 |
8.40% |
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7.000 - 7.125
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89 |
12.68% |
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7.125 - 7.250
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85 |
12.11% |
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7.250 - 7.375
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112 |
15.95% |
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7.375 - 7.500
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102 |
14.53% |
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7.500 - 7.625
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71 |
10.11% |
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7.625 - 7.750
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38 |
5.41% |
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7.750 - 7.875
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39 |
5.56% |
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7.875 - 8.000
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33 |
4.70% |
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8.000 - 8.125
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2.99% |
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8.125 - 8.250
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6 |
0.85% |
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8.250 - 8.375
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0.14% |
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8.375 - 8.500
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11 |
1.57% |
09-22-2016, 11:40 AM
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#2121
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by nik-
It very well might. But saying it's an insult is ridiculous. Someone would only take it as an insult if they were totally unaware of what the Flames are trying to build.
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Johnny G is an angel if he takes a penny less than Tarasenko.
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09-22-2016, 11:42 AM
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#2122
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Originally Posted by polak
PPG players that drive the entire offense and get entire arena's ooo'ing and aaahhh'ng in a low scoring era like this are not just "Pieces"
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Can't wait until we get one of those. Who knows, maybe even Gaudreau could become that guy!
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09-22-2016, 11:43 AM
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#2123
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Franchise Player
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I'm constantly ooohing and aaaahing, but mostly because I'm fascinated by the Enmax Energy Board.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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09-22-2016, 11:43 AM
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#2124
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by nik-
Nope, and that era didn't have to pay all those other pieces either.
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They could've allocated funds differently. Didn't matter though, because they never had the right mix to begin with. They still managed to spend the same money on worse players. Iginla's $7m didn't stop them from doing anything, but bad trades, bad contracts and bad drafting sure did.
Whether Gaudreau is the highest paid player on the team or not has no bearing on how successful this team can be if the pieces that are already here continue to develop. Stop wasting money on pluggers and there won't be cap problems. The Flames are historically their own worst enemy when it comes to their cap situation, and it's never been because they've their paid great players too much. It's because they seem to have an insatiable desire to possess a collection of overpaid depth players. This has been a fault for each of the Sutter, Feaster and Treliving regimes IMO.
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09-22-2016, 11:44 AM
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#2125
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
They could've allocated funds differently. Didn't matter though, because they never had the right mix to begin with. They still managed to spend the same money on worse players. Iginla's $7m didn't stop them from doing anything, but bad trades, bad contracts and bad drafting sure did.
Whether Gaudreau is the highest paid player on the team or not has no bearing on how successful this team can be if the pieces that are already here continue to develop. Stop wasting money on pluggers and there won't be cap problems. The Flames are historically their own worst enemy when it comes to their cap situation, and it's never been because they've their paid great players too much. It's because they seem to have an insatiable desire to possess a collection of overpaid depth players. This has been a fault for each of the Sutter, Feaster and Treliving regimes IMO.
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Exactly.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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09-22-2016, 11:45 AM
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#2126
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by nik-
Exactly.
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Either you missed the entire point of the post or you are being intentionally obtuse. Did you even read past the first sentence?
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09-22-2016, 11:46 AM
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#2127
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Like when Iginla held out in '99 and only played 13 more seasons in Calgary
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Or when Jamie Benn held out in 2013 and went on to sign 5 and 8 year contracts.
And to pre-emptively respond to Gaudreauvertime, I would be happier signing Gaudreau to a 5x$5.75M contract now and then some huge $9.5M contract in the future compared to an 8x$8M contract now. I want those $2.25M in our back pocket now and I'm willing to accept the extra ~$1.5M in what would be years 6-8 of an 8 year deal.
I don't care if that buys zero years of UFA. That is not a disaster in my books. In 5 years Johnny will be 29, not 26 or 27 like normal non-NCAA UFAs. The next 5 years are his prime. Pay him as cheaply as possible for them then who cares if he walks.
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09-22-2016, 11:47 AM
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#2128
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I'm thoroughly enjoying the PPG arguments regarding Gaudreau.
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09-22-2016, 11:47 AM
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#2129
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
Either you missed the entire point of the post or you are being intentionally obtuse. Did you even read past the first sentence?
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Yes, the difference we likely have the right mix now, and paying them all will be important.
Your posts are making my point for me.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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09-22-2016, 11:49 AM
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#2130
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
I'm thoroughly enjoying the PPG arguments regarding Gaudreau.
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How to be pedantic on the internet. Some guys here sure have it down to an art, they could teach a class.
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09-22-2016, 11:50 AM
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#2131
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
How to be pedantic on the internet. Some guys here sure have it down to an art, they could teach a class.
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Did someone give you this once dormant and dead account?
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09-22-2016, 11:53 AM
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#2132
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Did someone give you this once dormant and dead account?
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No it's mine. Just didn't use it for a long time. Is that a crime?
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09-22-2016, 11:54 AM
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#2133
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Yes
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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09-22-2016, 11:55 AM
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#2134
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
No it's mine. Just didn't use it for a long time. Is that a crime?
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Looking through the code book, brb.
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09-22-2016, 11:55 AM
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#2135
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Did someone give you this once dormant and dead account?
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
No it's mine. Just didn't use it for a long time. Is that a crime?
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Next time on "Squiggy and the dink"....
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09-22-2016, 11:56 AM
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#2136
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I can't be the only one who finds this thread to be absolutely hilarious. I hope he never signs just so this thread can keep going.
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09-22-2016, 11:56 AM
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#2137
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
How to be pedantic on the internet. Some guys here sure have it down to an art, they could teach a class.
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Yeah, I mean why be precise about something like numbers when discussing a contract?
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09-22-2016, 11:58 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Congratulations?
The way he was speaking "give him whatever he wants, to not piss him off", pretty easy to assume he voted the max.
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Oh, I know - it's weird. He argues for the max when he actually voted for 7.25-7.35 (for 7 year mind you).
Not looking for congrats - it's a poll - I'm just saying I find it odd that I think Gaudreau should make more than him but find myself arguing against him because he pushes the $8M figure so hard.
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09-22-2016, 12:00 PM
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#2139
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Yeah, I mean why be precise about something like numbers when discussing a contract?
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Precise? Yea let's go around saying he's a ".99 PPG Player". Thats not tedious or unnecessary at all.
Disputing the label "PPG player" for a guy with 78 points in 79 games is the very definition of pedantic
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09-22-2016, 12:01 PM
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#2140
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Oh, I know - it's weird. He argues for the max when he actually voted for 7.25-7.35 (for 7 year mind you).
Not looking for congrats - it's a poll - I'm just saying I find it odd that I think Gaudreau should make more than him but find myself arguing against him because he pushes the $8M figure so hard.
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The question is what I think he would sign for in a hypothetical 7 year deal, not what he is worth. There is a huuuuge difference.
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