Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Par

Would you all be up for Gaudreau for Taylor Hall, Johnny gets to play closer to home and he get a player similar to Gaudreau and who is pissed off at the Oilers.

You're going to have to leave now.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

No

Originally Posted by Hes

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I'd rather puke in my pants and go for a jog

Just curious as to why?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Par

Just curious as to why?

Because Gaudreau is a better hockey player

[Gaskal]

8 years with probably like $7.25 million AAV is my guess.

Year 1: $6,000,000
Year 2: $6,000,000
Year 3: $6,000,000
Year 4: $7,000,000
Year 5: $7,000,000
Year 6: $8,000,000
Year 7: $9,000,000
Year 8: $9,000,000

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

8 years with probably like $7.25 million AAV is my guess.

Year 1: $6,000,000
Year 2: $6,000,000
Year 3: $6,000,000
Year 4: $7,000,000
Year 5: $7,000,000
Year 6: $8,000,000
Year 7: $9,000,000
Year 8: $9,000,000

I think it would be done already if that's what is was going to be.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Par

Just curious as to why?

trolling?

[FBI]

If Johnny holds out then we know he was full of bs when he said he didn't really care much about the financials etc. I'm sure he's not going to hold out.

[Par]

Originally Posted by dino7c

trolling?

No, not at all, I think Johnny is looking for 8.5 mill, while the Flames are offering him 7.5 mill, so the gap is wide.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Par

No, not at all, I think Johnny is looking for 8.5 mill, while the Flames are offering him 7.5 mill, so the gap is wide.

Why Taylor Hall though...seems like a proposal designed to get a reaction, it has

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Par

No, not at all, I think Johnny is looking for 8.5 mill, while the Flames are offering him 7.5 mill, so the gap is wide.

Nobody knows what the numbers are behind the scenes so stop assuming. Also your proposals are often wack so stop that too.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Par

No, not at all, I think Johnny is looking for 8.5 mill, while the Flames are offering him 7.5 mill, so the gap is wide.

So you mean like the $10 mill that Stamkos wanted and so he could play in his home town? Nobody knows what is being asked/offered so quoting numbers is something the "hockey experts" (cough, Friedman, cough) throw out for hits on twitter.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

What do you think he should get for 8 years?

On the north side, the Tarasenko contract at $7.5M

On the south side, a match of Giordano's $6.75M

I think it comes somewhere in between those - if it's 8 years.

If it's less than 8 years, it will be less than Giordano's AAV.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Anyone who says Gaudreau hasn't earned 8 - 10 M is correct, but in the next breath they want an 8 year deal. If you are paying him what he us worth, he signs a 3 year 21M deal.
8 years and you have to pay for potential

Not even close. Three RFA years is not worth anything close to $21M. Try $15M.

In order to get an AAV of $7M, it will take multiple UFA years.

[Phaneufenstein]

Originally Posted by Par

Would you all be up for Gaudreau for Taylor Hall, Johnny gets to play closer to home and he get a player similar to Gaudreau and who is pissed off at the Oilers.

You're one of the most obvious trolls around here nowadays.
Good job staying afloat as long as you have I guess

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Values change every season with the dynamic of a fluctuating cap. For example; no one can think that Tavares is actually fairly paid in comparison to Kane/Toews with an AAV of 5.5 vs 10.5 and Gaudreau put up bigger numbers than all three players in his second pro year! If he was on a better team you can easily argue that Stanley cups/playoff accolades would easily be in the cards. Kane/Toews only went up to 6.3 AAV in their second deals respectively, however, that was a long time ago. That 6.3 AAV is probably more like 8.0 AAV this year imho.

Considering the Flames essentially do not have a team without Guadreau/Monohan, I would wager that fair value is even further up the ladder as the players and agents are fully aware of this.

Steven Stamkos just got $8.5M per from Tampa as a UFA at 26, with multiple 50 goal seasons and a 60 goal one thrown in for good measure.

Gaudreau is gonna get paid. His cap hit won't start with an 8.

[Stupid]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Steven Stamkos just got $8.5M per from Tampa as a UFA at 26, with multiple 50 goal seasons and a 60 goal one thrown in for good measure.

Gaudreau is gonna get paid. His cap hit won't start with an 8.

That rhymes!

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Values change every season with the dynamic of a fluctuating cap. For example; no one can think that Tavares is actually fairly paid in comparison to Kane/Toews with an AAV of 5.5 vs 10.5 and Gaudreau put up bigger numbers than all three players in his second pro year! If he was on a better team you can easily argue that Stanley cups/playoff accolades would easily be in the cards. Kane/Toews only went up to 6.3 AAV in their second deals respectively, however, that was a long time ago. That 6.3 AAV is probably more like 8.0 AAV this year imho.

Considering the Flames essentially do not have a team without Guadreau/Monohan, I would wager that fair value is even further up the ladder as the players and agents are fully aware of this.

1) by the time that Kane and Toews were Johnny's age they had a SC ring and 50 playoff games.

2) when Tavares finished off his 22 year season ( the same as Gaudreau) that was his 3rd year in a row where he was basically a ppg player.


3) the Flames with Monahan and Gaudreau performing at a level that we are talking 6M+ long term contracts finished 26th in the league (ie not far from essentially not having a team) ... a loss in the last meaningless game of the year would have put them tied for 3rd last in the league ... there is a heck of a lot riding on it was all the goalies fault theory

[Cole436]

This news actually more reassuring to me more than anything.

There is no way that Johnny is going to the WCH without a contract. Like, not a chance. There's no way his insurance will cover him for even a fraction of the amount that a 60 million dollar contract will. If he has a career ending injury during that tournament, that's it for him.

His agent will never let it happen, not only for Johnny's sake, but for his sake. Losing out on that guaranteed commission? Good luck.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Par

Would you all be up for Gaudreau for Taylor Hall, Johnny gets to play closer to home and he get a player similar to Gaudreau and who is pissed off at the Oilers.

I'd rather puke in MMF's pants and go for a jog.

[Vinny01]

I could see the Agent trying to get 6 years at huge money and the Flames pushing for 8

As I mentioned in the Gaudreau-Monahan thread we should sign Johnny for the full 8 and go 7 years with Monahan. The Flames would be faced with one key UFA every year 4 years from now
4 years - Brodie
5 years - Hamilton
6 years - Gio (retire)
7 years- Monahan
8 years - Gaudreau
9 years - Bennett??