12-16-2025, 08:33 PM
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#16241
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You misunderstand. The Flames aren’t trying to get Knies. The Leafs are trying to get Andersson. And the price just so happens to be Knies.
Calgary has zero incentive to add to that trade.
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Well the incentive would be to get Knies for “parts”
Using your $50 analogy - you can give $10 change and still come out ahead
Last edited by Jason14h; 12-16-2025 at 08:48 PM.
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12-16-2025, 08:35 PM
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#16242
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You misunderstand. The Flames aren’t trying to get Knies. The Leafs are trying to get Andersson. And the price just so happens to be Knies.
Calgary has zero incentive to add to that trade.
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Flames can insist on that player all they want but it’s either intentionally unrealistic, I.e they will not deal with the Leafs based on a crazy trade ask, or they’re talking bigger deal.
Or, more likely, it’s someone using the media to advantage their position.
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12-16-2025, 09:05 PM
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#16243
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I think people are seriously undervaluing Easton Cowan. He’s no Matthew Knies, but he would be a nice acquisition.
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12-16-2025, 09:10 PM
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#16244
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Cowan + an unprotected '28 1st + a second would be my price
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12-16-2025, 09:12 PM
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#16245
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I think people are seriously undervaluing Easton Cowan. He’s no Matthew Knies, but he would be a nice acquisition.
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I just think other teams can do better than Cowan + a first in 2028, unless the first is unprotected
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12-16-2025, 09:13 PM
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#16246
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Cowan + an unprotected '28 1st + a second would be my price
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Yup.
For me, the Knies talk is just to say: the price is high, call us when you're serious. And serious means 1st + Cowan +
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12-16-2025, 09:19 PM
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#16247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Flames can insist on that player all they want but it’s either intentionally unrealistic, I.e they will not deal with the Leafs based on a crazy trade ask, or they’re talking bigger deal.
Or, more likely, it’s someone using the media to advantage their position.
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Why would they be talking a bigger deal if that’s the price just for Andersson?
Toronto is either going to have to pony up, create a “parts” deal with that kind of value (they can’t), or let Andersson go to a competitor who actually has something to offer.
Again, zero reason for Calgary to add.
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12-16-2025, 09:26 PM
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#16248
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by DropIt
Still fail to see what Toronto has that would net Ras
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Sign me up for an unprotected 20281st...that will be worth the wait
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12-16-2025, 09:27 PM
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#16249
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Originally Posted by browntrout
Sign me up for an unprotected 20281st...that will be worth the wait
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100%
Then pursue a '27 first in a Kadri trade, and they'll have 2 1sts for 5 consecutive drafts. That's how you build a talent pool
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12-16-2025, 09:36 PM
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#16250
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Why would they be talking a bigger deal if that’s the price just for Andersson?
Toronto is either going to have to pony up, create a “parts” deal with that kind of value (they can’t), or let Andersson go to a competitor who actually has something to offer.
Again, zero reason for Calgary to add.
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If they like the player enough? Sure they’d add.
Knies isn’t the price for just Andersson. It’s not a realistic one anyway. The Flames can bluff their hand, but it’s just not a good faith negotiation if that’s the price they’d hold on.
The value equivalence isn’t there, even if you factor in blocking your rival from acquiring a player you covet.
The Leafs with Andersson and minus Knies doesn’t make them a better team, one for one. Which is why I say: if the Flames want Knies and it stops there, they’d need to add. If they don’t want to add then there’s not a deal to be made.
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12-16-2025, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
If they like the player enough? Sure they’d add.
Knies isn’t the price for just Andersson. It’s not a realistic one anyway. The Flames can bluff their hand, but it’s just not a good faith negotiation if that’s the price they’d hold on.
The value equivalence isn’t there, even if you factor in blocking your rival from acquiring a player you covet.
The Leafs with Andersson and minus Knies doesn’t make them a better team, one for one. Which is why I say: if the Flames want Knies and it stops there, they’d need to add. If they don’t want to add then there’s not a deal to be made.
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Oh well, guess the Leafs aren’t getting Andersson.
On to better offers!
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12-17-2025, 07:09 AM
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#16252
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Brads been told the price is Knies, so good luck Bradley.
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This seems a bit out of touch if that is the Flames ask. Despite what Flames fans emotions, or those in the organization, might be towards Treliving holding grudges isn’t the best way to do business.
If, in fact, the ask from the Flames for Andersson is Knies, if I were the Leafs, I’d be asking for Gridin or Coronato as the add from the Flames. In other words, there’s no deal here to be made. If the Leafs want Anderson, their best chance is likely to come in the offseason as a UFA, if he gets there.
Bear in mind, there were rumors last year that the Leafs were prioritizing Knoes over Marner. That should indicate the likelihood of zknies being involved in any trade. Extremely unlikely and certainly not for Andersson.
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12-17-2025, 07:12 AM
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#16253
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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So the Flames should just make another bad trade with Toronto just because they want Andersson and don't want to give up ..... Wait, they can't give up a competitive offer outside of Knies because they blew their load already.
There's no deal with Toronto, even with the rumored Brad tax.
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