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Old 12-12-2025, 11:13 AM   #15661
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Quinn Hughes just turned 26 and is nearly a point per game Dman over his career. He is second to Makar as the best Dman in the NHL. While he is rumored to want to play with his brothers he does not have trade protection and has a year and a half left on his deal that is a complete steal under today’s cap. This is a franchise player being dealt.
Yup. They’re gonna lose that trade like everyone who’s ever traded a franchise player. Except maybe the Lindros deal.
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Old 12-12-2025, 11:20 AM   #15662
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Yup. They’re gonna lose that trade like everyone who’s ever traded a franchise player. Except maybe the Lindros deal.
Mercer is having an alright season this year on pace for a career high 56pts but is coming off 2 seasons of 33 and 36pts over full seasons. His value was higher 2 years ago than it is today.

Nemec is having a bit of a breakout so I could see him being someone the Devils try and keep and they could try with Casey or Silayev instead but the Nucks will want picks as well. I think Hughes pushes the Devils to near the top of the league so those 1sts would be late.
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Old 12-12-2025, 11:34 AM   #15663
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Can't imagine the Devils up the rumored offer of Mercer + Nemec + 1st. Take it or leave it Canucks. If you get more elsewhere that's fine, we'll sign him in 2 years and keep our guys
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Mercer is having an alright season this year on pace for a career high 56pts but is coming off 2 seasons of 33 and 36pts over full seasons. His value was higher 2 years ago than it is today.

Nemec is having a bit of a breakout so I could see him being someone the Devils try and keep and they could try with Casey or Silayev instead but the Nucks will want picks as well. I think Hughes pushes the Devils to near the top of the league so those 1sts would be late.
Would be genuine malpractice from Fitzgerald if he doesn't make this happen. This is where it's sometimes more fun seeing trades in the NBA or NFL where GMs are wild. Who cares if it's an overpay, you famously have a surplus of young D prospects, go get the 2nd best D man on the planet and worry about losing some fun prospects later.

Mercer, one of Nemec and Silayev, 1st, conditional 1st, whatever man. Your core are mid 20s, you swing this and you have a 4-5 year window of being scary.

Except for the goalie tbh...
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Can't imagine the Devils up the rumored offer of Mercer + Nemec + 1st. Take it or leave it Canucks. If you get more elsewhere that's fine, we'll sign him in 2 years and keep our guys
The Blues fans had similar feelings about Tkachuk when they lowballed the Flames because Matthew wanted to go home.

Frank mentioned a team like the Blackhawk’s entering the mix and being able to put a huge offer on the table. Quinn gets to go to a major market and play with Bedard for the rest of his career and the Devils left wishing they did more.
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Can't imagine the Devils up the rumored offer of Mercer + Nemec + 1st. Take it or leave it Canucks. If you get more elsewhere that's fine, we'll sign him in 2 years and keep our guys
I don't know that gives you two years in order to be a contender - seems to me as though those are two pretty valuable years - especially since there is no guarantee that he will sign in New Jersey. I think that you have to swing for the fences when you have the opportunity to do so.

What Hughes gives is one of the best defenseman on the trade market in the salary cap era - between him and Karlsson when he was traded from the Senators. If you put him onto any very good team he automatically makes them into a contender for the next two years, and without any trade protection that makes him a very appealing target.
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Old 12-12-2025, 12:04 PM   #15667
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If acquiring Hughes is a 'shortcut', why are the Nucks terrible? He's an elite player, but there are no shortcuts.

Parekh + Gridin + Frost +1st would be a terrible deal, and would set the rebuild back by 2 years.

It would however, elevate the Flames to being a potential playoff team for the next couple years, until Kadri and Coleman are gone or faded.
The Canucks are terrible because the rest of their team is deeply flawed. You have a lot of complementary forwards (Boeser, DeBrusk, Garland) with no one who really drives the play, aside from potentially Pettersson, who is often injured and has entire seasons where he underperforms. The defense was supposed to be the area of strength but they have been underwhelming so far. Their elite goaltender is injured all the time and the expensive backup has regressed from his performance last year... with no one in the pipeline.

In general... one player can't make a team good but I think that one player can make a good team great.
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Old 12-12-2025, 12:12 PM   #15668
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The Blues fans had similar feelings about Tkachuk when they lowballed the Flames because Matthew wanted to go home.

Frank mentioned a team like the Blackhawk’s entering the mix and being able to put a huge offer on the table. Quinn gets to go to a major market and play with Bedard for the rest of his career and the Devils left wishing they did more.
Good point. Just dont know how much more they can really give. Maybe its a 1st + 2nd + the players?
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The two teams have already talked framework.
NJ isn’t looking to wait 2 years and maybe get him then, they want him now.
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The two teams have already talked framework.
NJ isn’t looking to wait 2 years and maybe get him then, they want him now.
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Old 12-12-2025, 12:46 PM   #15671
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Carlo had term. Nelson is a center. So, those aren't good comparables. Definitely should get more than Hanifin. I'd say a 1st, replacement d-man we can flip in a year, and a very good but not the best prospect from their pool. Thinking like #3-6 prospect depending on who they're willing to give up and how good their prospect pool is. If it is a terrible one, we better be getting their best prospect in return.
Nelson was in relation to Kadri not Andersson. I guess i didnt make that clear. I was talking about the Flames moving both.
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The two teams have already talked framework.
NJ isn’t looking to wait 2 years and maybe get him then, they want him now.
Fitz probably has a lot of pressure on him to turn this season around too, ship seems to be sinking in NJ.

Doesnt help Marky turned into a pumpkin again this year too.
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Old 12-12-2025, 01:34 PM   #15674
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Does anyone know when the Flames' rookie dinner is this year? That would've been some good content for The Chase YouTube series.

I'm guessing it's a 3 way split this year with: Parekh, Kuznetsov, and Honzek.

With a couple of maybes if they're re-called/stay with the team in: Kerins, Morton, Gridin, and Brzustewicz. Maybe even Klapka, if he was on the Wranglers when they had last year's rookie dinner.
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The Wings will be in on this. They need a big swing to get over the hump, and have loads of prospects (including a potential top-2 C in Danielson) and picks to make it happen. Hughes has connections there too - he played college hockey in Michigan, his parents live there, and he’s close friends with Larkin.
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There's an outside chance that we get lucky, and Rasmus gets a better offer from whoever is the bridesmaid for Hughes.
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There's an outside chance that we get lucky, and Rasmus gets a better offer from whoever is the bridesmaid for Hughes.
I think Hughes goes in the summer, not during the season.
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How did the Oilers make their trades happen? I was told you can't trade anyone until closer to the deadline.
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