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Old 12-10-2025, 03:28 PM   #15401
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but many poster claim we can't believe anything management or media says?...

Or is that only when it doesn't support the approved narrative?

Can someone explain the rules to me please.
I don’t think we can trust what management says, don’t think we can even trust their actions with 4 other players in similar circumstances who were UFAs at the end of the year.

It is that old saying “trust but verify but even when verified don’t trust and allege they will do the opposite”
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Old 12-10-2025, 03:28 PM   #15402
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I’m not sure if it’s the heatstroke or brain lapse but I thought it was pretty clear.
I’ll dumb it down though just so we’re crystal clear:

1. Andersson is gone - It’s not if it’s when, timing tricky for all the reasons people have highlighted. His value is going up which is great, will miss the guys swagger for sure as well. Mutual decision, leaving on good terms.

2. Kadri - controls his fate in the sense that his 13 ntc isn’t much but he’s on great terms with Craig and vice versa, Craig’s not going to send him to a dead franchise for him to play out the rest of the contract. Craig respects what he’s done for this team and his desire to rebuild here, but if trading him makes the Flames better than Kadri said he’d do what’s best for the team. There’s enough interest that I would consider him also probably moving.

3. Coleman - Few teams interested, playoff teams wanting exactly what he brings every night. Value is there, but likely the lowest percent chance to move, if he’s moved I’d bet on a homecoming in Texas for family reasons.


I think the main thing to takeaway here is that all 3 guys love the team and the city and have a connection to wanting to see it through. Speaks volumes for how Craig and ownership treat these guys, lord knows there’s not a lineup of superstars wanting to play in CGY.

I’d bet on 2/3 moving.
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Old 12-10-2025, 03:32 PM   #15403
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I’m not sure if it’s the heatstroke or brain lapse but I thought it was pretty clear.
I’ll dumb it down though just so we’re crystal clear:

1. Andersson is gone - It’s not if it’s when, timing tricky for all the reasons people have highlighted. His value is going up which is great, will miss the guys swagger for sure as well. Mutual decision, leaving on good terms.

2. Kadri - controls his fate in the sense that his 13 ntc isn’t much but he’s on great terms with Craig and vice versa, Craig’s not going to send him to a dead franchise for him to play out the rest of the contract. Craig respects what he’s done for this team and his desire to rebuild here, but if trading him makes the Flames better than Kadri said he’d do what’s best for the team. There’s enough interest that I would consider him also probably moving.

3. Coleman - Few teams interested, playoff teams wanting exactly what he brings every night. Value is there, but likely the lowest percent chance to move, if he’s moved I’d bet on a homecoming in Texas for family reasons.


I think the main thing to takeaway here is that all 3 guys love the team and the city and have a connection to wanting to see it through. Speaks volumes for how Craig and ownership treat these guys, lord knows there’s not a lineup of superstars wanting to play in CGY.

I’d bet on 2/3 moving.
You were clear but it is possible that what you mean in this post is that he is gone but it could be on July 1st when he signs with somebody else and the Flames get nothing. Even this post did not specify that this possibility won’t happen. I am sure mass confusion will not ensue.
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Old 12-10-2025, 03:33 PM   #15404
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I’m not sure if it’s the heatstroke or brain lapse but I thought it was pretty clear.
I’ll dumb it down though just so we’re crystal clear:

1. Andersson is gone - It’s not if it’s when, timing tricky for all the reasons people have highlighted. His value is going up which is great, will miss the guys swagger for sure as well. Mutual decision, leaving on good terms.

2. Kadri - controls his fate in the sense that his 13 ntc isn’t much but he’s on great terms with Craig and vice versa, Craig’s not going to send him to a dead franchise for him to play out the rest of the contract. Craig respects what he’s done for this team and his desire to rebuild here, but if trading him makes the Flames better than Kadri said he’d do what’s best for the team. There’s enough interest that I would consider him also probably moving.

3. Coleman - Few teams interested, playoff teams wanting exactly what he brings every night. Value is there, but likely the lowest percent chance to move, if he’s moved I’d bet on a homecoming in Texas for family reasons.


I think the main thing to takeaway here is that all 3 guys love the team and the city and have a connection to wanting to see it through. Speaks volumes for how Craig and ownership treat these guys, lord knows there’s not a lineup of superstars wanting to play in CGY.

I’d bet on 2/3 moving.
Thank you for the clarification and the notes.
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Old 12-10-2025, 03:39 PM   #15405
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1. Andersson is gone - It’s not if it’s when
Ok but what did he really mean by this?
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Ok but what did he really mean by this?
I interpret this as Calgary is signing him long-term.
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I interpret this as Calgary is signing him long-term.
Andersson is gon...na sign an 8 year extension babyyyy
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I’m not sure if it’s the heatstroke or brain lapse but I thought it was pretty clear.
I’ll dumb it down though just so we’re crystal clear:

1. Andersson is gone - It’s not if it’s when, timing tricky for all the reasons people have highlighted. His value is going up which is great, will miss the guys swagger for sure as well. Mutual decision, leaving on good terms.

2. Kadri - controls his fate in the sense that his 13 ntc isn’t much but he’s on great terms with Craig and vice versa, Craig’s not going to send him to a dead franchise for him to play out the rest of the contract. Craig respects what he’s done for this team and his desire to rebuild here, but if trading him makes the Flames better than Kadri said he’d do what’s best for the team. There’s enough interest that I would consider him also probably moving.

3. Coleman - Few teams interested, playoff teams wanting exactly what he brings every night. Value is there, but likely the lowest percent chance to move, if he’s moved I’d bet on a homecoming in Texas for family reasons.


I think the main thing to takeaway here is that all 3 guys love the team and the city and have a connection to wanting to see it through. Speaks volumes for how Craig and ownership treat these guys, lord knows there’s not a lineup of superstars wanting to play in CGY.

I’d bet on 2/3 moving.
So if I get this straight, Andersson is NOT moving this year?
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Old 12-10-2025, 04:32 PM   #15409
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So if I get this straight, Andersson is NOT moving this year?
As in 2025? Correct.
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Old 12-10-2025, 04:34 PM   #15410
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I’m not sure if it’s the heatstroke or brain lapse but I thought it was pretty clear.
I’ll dumb it down though just so we’re crystal clear:

1. Andersson is gone - It’s not if it’s when, timing tricky for all the reasons people have highlighted. His value is going up which is great, will miss the guys swagger for sure as well. Mutual decision, leaving on good terms.
I have a question related to some of the things you wrote on Nov 11th, during the game against STL.

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The cultures been broken since the summer.
They chose not to address the elephant in the room, said it wouldn’t be a distraction.

It’s only gotten worse, more than I think they imagined.
Bad play is one thing.
Bad attitudes spread like wildfire.
Huge divide in the room, not even sure how you fix it at this point.
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Oh it’s more than just one guy, of course.
It would be very weak to use him as the excuse.

But that smoke didn’t go away like they claimed it would.
The bad start.
The accountability between veterans and rookies
The lineup decisions and constant changes

I’m interested to see how much is shown on the YouTube series, the amount of closed door “meetings” should be fun to see.
I'm only asking because I don't see much of a divide, nor does it seem that Andersson/Kadri or any of the vets have attitude issues. Obviously, winning fixes a lot of things, but I also didn't notice much animosity in the YouTube series. I'm not trying to take a shot at you with this, just trying to understand the complete 180 the team seemingly did within a couple of weeks. Because now Andersson is leaving on good terms, Kadri has a great relationship with Conroy etc.
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Is it gonezo or gonzo?

Discuss.

Wait, I am confused. Or are you confused? I think it is either



OR





Andersson for Gonchar straight up?
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Old 12-10-2025, 04:46 PM   #15412
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I am not seeing this strong majority, but whatever you want to believe man.

It's only yourself you are fooling here.
So now that Royle has clarified is it still me that was fooling myself? Or did you just misinterpret something incorrectly, dig in your heels and consistently double down?
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Old 12-10-2025, 04:50 PM   #15413
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So now that Royle has clarified is it still me that was fooling myself? Or did you just misinterpret something incorrectly, dig in your heels and consistently double down?
Technically he didn’t clarify the point that was unclear - he said he’s gone but did not specifically say traded before the trade deadline (or on the deadline day depending how you interpret trade deadline )

Is this deliberate skirting around saying he will be traded …. 2 posts now that leave the same ambiguity

Leaving as a UFA is still gone !
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Technically he didn’t clarify the point that was unclear - he said he’s gone but did not specifically say traded before the trade deadline (or on the deadline day depending how you interpret trade deadline )

Is this deliberate skirting around saying he will be traded …. 2 posts now that leave the same ambiguity

Leaving as a UFA is still gone !
Really?

He literally opened it by acting surprised that people had trouble interpreting what he said and finished it with 2/3 will be gone, and you still think there's a good chance he was suggesting Andersson will walk as a UFA?

Why prey tell would you want to hang on to a worse case scenario? Even Rhett said thanks for the clarification.
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Old 12-10-2025, 05:05 PM   #15415
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Also important is how Conroy and the organization treat these players as humans as much or moreso as players. Treating players well and make them feel wanted is crucial to prospect development and free agent recruitment. Very happy to hear that Conroy is considering both the team and the player during any potential transactional discussion.
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Old 12-10-2025, 05:32 PM   #15417
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Really?

He literally opened it by acting surprised that people had trouble interpreting what he said and finished it with 2/3 will be gone, and you still think there's a good chance he was suggesting Andersson will walk as a UFA?

Why prey tell would you want to hang on to a worse case scenario? Even Rhett said thanks for the clarification.
Why prey tell did you decide to take a shot at Monahammer for no reason - when the point he was making was not actually clarified (again) in Royles post .
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Old 12-10-2025, 05:38 PM   #15418
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Why prey tell did you decide to take a shot at Monahammer for no reason - when the point he was making was not actually clarified (again) in Royles post .
I think it's been clear in his first and second post to a large % of the site.

If a person that tends to see the negative in things goes into a weak minority interpretation I think it's within the bounds of logic to question it.

So if you want to call that a shot ... fill your boots. No personal attack. No insults.
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Why prey tell did you decide to take a shot at Monahammer for no reason - when the point he was making was not actually clarified (again) in Royles post .
You have to squint very hard to try and read that as anything but he’s being traded.
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Andersson gone, where have I heard that before?
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