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Old 11-08-2025, 05:44 PM   #12061
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Old 11-08-2025, 05:56 PM   #12062
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There is a reason what Dreger said was interpreted by fans in a certain way once ownership was brought up.
Pure panic and ignoring what Conroy has actually done?

From what I gather from some posters is that the Flames should be having fun while they are last in the league and once again that Huska is to blame for the roster reverting back to closer where it should be even though they want a rebuild.

There isn’t going to be exciting hockey where they consistently lose 5-4. I enjoyed last year because I was pretty sure they sink back towards a bottom ten finish. Roster wasn’t good last year and it’s just as bad this year.
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Old 11-08-2025, 06:06 PM   #12063
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I dunno Brad seems to be doing the same thing in Toronto. It seems to be what he does.
It was appropriate in Toronto, since they had a high-octane team that couldn't get it done in the playoffs and his job was to win now. Not so appropriate here. Probably the Leafs hired him to do exactly the job he's doing, only they hoped Marner would choose to re-sign and Treliving would be more adept at finding depth players for defensive roles.
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Old 11-08-2025, 06:17 PM   #12064
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Pretty easy to look up but sharagovich, farabee, huberdeau and coronato, maybe even backlund, though less so there are all contracts up front that i think the flames would struggle to move right now where they are married to the player for 3 years plus. You can pretty much pencil those guys into the lineup for the next 3 seasons no matter how they perform as they all seem to be negative value contracts or close to it
Well, Huberdeau wasn't signed by a present Flames GM (plus he's playing fine). Farabee has turned it around. Coronato was rewarded for a heck of a season and I doubt young guys are complaining about him.

Frankly I still don't think this "young guys are unhappy" stuff has legs, unless I hear a source. Because that's not something a kid would say out loud in or out of the room, except to a close friend.
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Old 11-08-2025, 06:21 PM   #12065
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Well, Huberdeau wasn't signed by a present Flames GM (plus he's playing fine). Farabee has turned it around. Coronato was rewarded for a heck of a season and I doubt young guys are complaining about him.

Frankly I still don't think this "young guys are unhappy" stuff has legs, unless I hear a source. Because that's not something a kid would say out loud in or out of the room, except to a close friend.
Gotta think a guy like Zary is one of the unhappy ones, maybe even Klapka
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Well, Huberdeau wasn't signed by a present Flames GM (plus he's playing fine). Farabee has turned it around. Coronato was rewarded for a heck of a season and I doubt young guys are complaining about him.

Frankly I still don't think this "young guys are unhappy" stuff has legs, unless I hear a source. Because that's not something a kid would say out loud in or out of the room, except to a close friend.
Farabee has turned it around? He gets all that money for skating hard and looking up at the heaven's after every shift? Is that in his contract?

Probably the unhappy guy is Zary. Shows flashes of offensive genius. Gets injured, then injured again. Contract time comes and we say, you need to show us more. Season comes and he is the odd man out, musical chairs style. Hard to show anything in that situation.

Some players respond to the stick, some don't.

Plus, like others have said; apart from Lombo, does everyone know what their role is? Do we have Zary in the right role?

Top to bottom, this is starting to look like a malignant rebuild to me. More BUF and less MTL.
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Old 11-08-2025, 06:34 PM   #12067
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Farabee has turned it around?
Farabee has 7 points in 16 games now. If he were scoring at his career average rate exactly, he would have 7.94. After a woeful start, he's made a pretty quick recovery.
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Old 11-08-2025, 06:53 PM   #12068
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Farabee is usually among the top-3 forwards in ice-time every night-at least when I check. He’s doing something right, even when he’s not scoring.
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Zary seems to get obliterated every game with big hits and I wonder if it’s been affecting his performance or he is still injured. I think he needs to adapt his game as he’s not the biggest guy and his style of play with possession makes him a constant target for defenders that probably out weigh him by 30-50 lbs. reminds me a bit of German Titov who seemed to get crushed at least once per game. The fact that he has already missed significant time the last 3-4 years is concerning and I wonder if that’s part of the reason the two sides were so far apart when evaluating what his next contract would look like.



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Farabee has turned it around? He gets all that money for skating hard and looking up at the heaven's after every shift? Is that in his contract?

Probably the unhappy guy is Zary. Shows flashes of offensive genius. Gets injured, then injured again. Contract time comes and we say, you need to show us more. Season comes and he is the odd man out, musical chairs style. Hard to show anything in that situation.

Some players respond to the stick, some don't.

Plus, like others have said; apart from Lombo, does everyone know what their role is? Do we have Zary in the right role?

Top to bottom, this is starting to look like a malignant rebuild to me. More BUF and less MTL.
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Old 11-08-2025, 07:06 PM   #12070
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Farabee does all the little stuff right, he just isn't actually useful for scoring goals. He's a fine 3rd or 4th line winger, but we play him higher up because of our lack of depth.

We have a collection of farabees on the roster and that is the problem. Guys who are fine depth guys, but you don't need 7 of them.
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Old 11-08-2025, 07:12 PM   #12071
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Farabee has 7 points in 16 games now. If he were scoring at his career average rate exactly, he would have 7.94. After a woeful start, he's made a pretty quick recovery.
His career average is not worth $5MM per season, when he's getting PP time and premium ice time.

And he made a terrible play on the Hawks third goal last night.
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Farabee has turned it around? He gets all that money for skating hard and looking up at the heaven's after every shift? Is that in his contract?

Probably the unhappy guy is Zary. Shows flashes of offensive genius. Gets injured, then injured again. Contract time comes and we say, you need to show us more. Season comes and he is the odd man out, musical chairs style. Hard to show anything in that situation.

Some players respond to the stick, some don't.

Plus, like others have said; apart from Lombo, does everyone know what their role is? Do we have Zary in the right role?

Top to bottom, this is starting to look like a malignant rebuild to me. More BUF and less MTL.
I wouldn't get excited about the Habs just yet. The standings are very odd right now. And they just don't impress me, especially down the middle.
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His career average is not worth $5MM per season, when he's getting PP time and premium ice time.

And he made a terrible play on the Hawks third goal last night.
It’s pretty funny the Flames took him as a salary dump who Philly didn’t want and were celebrating him almost being at his career average - the career that got him salary dumped to us.
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His career average is not worth $5MM per season, when he's getting PP time and premium ice time.

And he made a terrible play on the Hawks third goal last night.

Not a huge Farabee fan but 5 million seems to be middle-six money now, so it's not egregious.
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Not a huge Farabee fan but 5 million seems to be middle-six money now, so it's not egregious.
But his production isn't based on him getting third line time with 0 PP time.

He needs to be producing more than that based on the ice time he is being fed.

It was egregious enough to get him dumped on the Flames so they got Frost cheaper.
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It’s pretty funny the Flames took him as a salary dump who Philly didn’t want and were celebrating him almost being at his career average - the career that got him salary dumped to us.
Nobody's celebrating. I was pointing out to Badgers Nose that it is, in fact, true that he has improved since the beginning of the season (or the end of last season).

Farabee's performance right now is nothing to celebrate, but neither is it one of the top 10 things wrong with the team.
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Old 11-08-2025, 08:33 PM   #12077
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Slam Farabee all y'all want, but it really only proves that if Farabee is one of the few bright spots on this roster, there waaaaaaay bigger problems than Joel Farabee being on the team.
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Farabee has turned it around? He gets all that money for skating hard and looking up at the heaven's after every shift? Is that in his contract?

Probably the unhappy guy is Zary. Shows flashes of offensive genius. Gets injured, then injured again. Contract time comes and we say, you need to show us more. Season comes and he is the odd man out, musical chairs style. Hard to show anything in that situation.

Some players respond to the stick, some don't.

Plus, like others have said; apart from Lombo, does everyone know what their role is? Do we have Zary in the right role?

Top to bottom, this is starting to look like a malignant rebuild to me. More BUF and less MTL.
Agreed. Makes sense Zary is one of them. Also recall Conroy mentioning how Zary and Coronato reacted to being told they were being sent down in the last few seasons. He mentioned that he thought Zary was so mad he was going to fight him while Coronato said something along the lines of willing to do anything to stay with the big club (filling water bottles was the example I think). Anyways, both players responded well in the AHL by playing well and getting the next call up and have stayed with the big club since. Zary’s reaction of anger back then tracks with him likely being one of the frustrated ones now. And I don’t blame him. He hasn’t played well but it’s tough to say if that’s all because of his play or because of how he has been handled this season. I put most of the blame on him but I have not been a fan of how he has been bounced around the line up.
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Wouldn’t the opposite be coming from the Dreger report and the history of the team under Edwards?
And Steinberg's report, And you can listen to this video from Pike, particularly around 5:40 on what he hears from team management about what they think about the team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXmVWdCQdWM

I'm not an insider like everyone else but Steinberg, Dreger, Pike are willing to attach their name to what they report about the Flames. They seem to be consistently saying that Flames currently think their core is better than what it has shown this year and they don't really want to race to the bottom.

Maybe the team forces them to change their mind at some point by continuing to lose. Or maybe certain players force their hand by asking out.
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