2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Right
And if the Flames got a first for Rasmus they could try to trade down and do the same thing
It’s a misleading way to put it
They got a single first for him plus a bunch of other stuff
And they also sent another roster player to Vancouver

They got a lottery pick which allows you to do that. Flames waiting until the deadline again will guarantee 0% chance for a lottery pick.

You can say its misleading but its what it turned out to be.

Let's call it a lottery pick then.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Well one of the things they did that was smart was they made the trade on Feb 1st. Maybe the Canucks felt NYR would move up. Either way, I do agree it was great return. Pittsburgh had the luxury of making a deal with Jim Rutherford, just as Calgary did when they traded Elias. I think it was a stunningly dumb deal by Vancouver.

But if we are going to draw comparisons let's use the real information, not spun versions of it. The info is readily available on hockeydb so we don't need to use anything other than what the trade actually was.

The trade is also an interesting because they extended Pettersson soon after (5 days later) so they likely had some confidence they could do that, which is why they were willing to give up so much.

And it's also interesting that NYR could have triggered the condition on the pick because it was top 13 protected, and ended up 12. It would have bumped to an unprotected 2026 1st and they likely didn't do that because they didn't want to expose themselves to any level of McKenna risk.

[Niemo]

How is this a spun version? Marcus Petterson was traded for a pick that turned into a lottery pick a few months later that was then swapped for 2 1st round picks later in the same draft.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Because it wasn’t the trade that was made. Simple as that
If you want to offer a comparison use the actual info. Otherwise it’s just lazy complaining.
I just offered up the real details of the deal including some of the dynamics that drove that return
But again if you were just looking to complain you hit that low bar

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

LA's offer was probably something like...

A second.
A fifth.
A seventh.

If someone at LA tells Dreger it’s an ‘incredible offer,’ that’s what he repeats to his audience with zero thought, intelligence, critical thinking or value add.

I think you are right. Remove one of the above and add the goalie Jiri referenced and you probably have the ‘incredible offer.’

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I’m not sure a 1st, a 2nd, and a 25 year old defenceman with some potential is all that different than Bourque and a 2nd.

It was a 1st, 3rd, and Miromanov. Bourque likely has quite a bit more value than a late 1st considering he has put up strong numbers in the AHL and is already an NHL player. Id take a 2nd over 3rd and Miromanov.

Bourque and a 2nd would be a great package for Andersson but I'm doubtful it's coming.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Hackey

It was a 1st, 3rd, and Miromanov. Bourque likely has quite a bit more value than a late 1st considering he has put up strong numbers in the AHL and is already an NHL player. Id take a 2nd over 3rd and Miromanov.

Bourque and a 2nd would be a great package for Andersson but I'm doubtful it's coming.

Sorry, it was a conditional 3rd that was one goal away from becoming a 2nd.

I’m not sure the value is much different.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by BigThief

That'll stop when the Flames stop doing Flames things

That might be even weaker.

EVERY team tries to make a decision on when to move a player based on market conditions.

There is nothing "Flames" about it.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by traptor

Ive noticed its always the same circle with some of you who judge anyone who critizes the Flames.

Its either


"Too early to judge"


Until it turns into


"O yeah hindsight is 20/20, easy to judge now.

Pretty simple ...

Don't make up a bleak scenario to make yourself feel better.
Don't use 4 decades of inconsistent consistency to wallow further when it's irrelevant.
Don't use things like "Flames thing to do"

None of those are rules.
Not following won't get you banned.

But any will get you some push back, which honestly you should probably expect on a message board for "FANS" of a hockey team.

This isn't rocket science.

[Royle9]

Rasmus is easily worth a first, and he’ll get it either now or by the deadline (which looks more likely now)
No extension coming, he knows it and the team knows it.
I personally think we should have been actively shopping him harder all summer removing this distraction from the team to start the year, but alas here we are.

But he does have value, so I wouldn’t panic about that part.
Craig wasn’t interested in just picks, the team was really looking for that hockey trade for a young center and I still beleive that’s the priority. But when the deadline comes he’ll be forced to pivot into the best deal available, regardless of the other team offering an extension.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Rasmus is easily worth a first, and he’ll get it either now or by the deadline (which looks more likely now)
No extension coming, he knows it and the team knows it.
I personally think we should have been actively shopping him harder all summer removing this distraction from the team to start the year, but alas here we are.

But he does have value, so I wouldn’t panic about that part.
Craig wasn’t interested in just picks, the team was really looking for that hockey trade for a young center and I still beleive that’s the priority. But when the deadline comes he’ll be forced to pivot into the best deal available, regardless of the other team offering an extension.

I agree he has value. I just don't understand why, if a hockey trade isn't immediately available, why not trade for the best return possible and flip those aquired assets +/- for a center? The offseason is the time to do it.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I agree he has value. I just don't understand why, if a hockey trade isn't immediately available, why not trade for the best return possible and flip those aquired assets +/- for a center? The offseason is the time to do it.

Why do it now when you can do it closer to the deadline as teams get desperate to push themselves over the top or fix a glaring issue?

I doubt Lindholm would have received more in the off season. I’d rather Conroy pull the trigger when he feels he’s getting near maximum value as opposed to stick to some arbitrary window.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I agree he has value. I just don't understand why, if a hockey trade isn't immediately available, why not trade for the best return possible and flip those aquired assets +/- for a center? The offseason is the time to do it.

Because you’re not turning a 2nd, 4th and 7th for example into anything remotely valuable player wise unfortunately.

Multiple picks doesn’t make them better picks.
1 first rounder is better than that value typically.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Rasmus is easily worth a first, and he’ll get it either now or by the deadline (which looks more likely now)
No extension coming, he knows it and the team knows it.
I personally think we should have been actively shopping him harder all summer removing this distraction from the team to start the year, but alas here we are.

But he does have value, so I wouldn’t panic about that part.
Craig wasn’t interested in just picks, the team was really looking for that hockey trade for a young center and I still beleive that’s the priority. But when the deadline comes he’ll be forced to pivot into the best deal available, regardless of the other team offering an extension.

How do you know they weren’t actively shopping him hard all summer?

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Because you’re not turning a 2nd, 4th and 7th for example into anything remotely valuable player wise unfortunately.

Multiple picks doesn’t make them better picks.
1 first rounder is better than that value typically.

Didn't we trade Tanev for a 2nd and 3rd when we could have had a 1st instead? Or that was at least what was reported watching Flames Nation at the time.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Didn't we trade Tanev for a 2nd and 3rd when we could have had a 1st instead? Or that was at least what was reported watching Flames Nation at the time.

Because they didn't want to help out the Oilers by taking back a bad contract that had term on it.

A 2nd and 3rd from Dallas was worth more than a 1st and a cap dump from the Oilers.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by heep223

How do you know they weren’t actively shopping him hard all summer?

Because that’s what I’ve been told.
July was the month to move him, teams now have their rosters locked in for training camp and Craig himself has said Rasmus will start with the flames.

But I get it, they too take time off in the summer so it’s not unexpected.

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Didn't we trade Tanev for a 2nd and 3rd when we could have had a 1st instead? Or that was at least what was reported watching Flames Nation at the time.

Well in this case it’s because the 1st was coming from your rival and came with a cap dump if I recall correctly.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Because that’s what I’ve been told.
July was the month to move him, teams now have their rosters locked in for training camp and Craig himself has said Rasmus will start with the flames.

But I get it, they too take time off in the summer so it’s not unexpected.

Ah well, I tend to agree. I’ve always believed it’s super awkward to have a guy on the team who you know is getting traded. Especially an important guy. How could it not be a distraction?

There’s also injury risk.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by heep223

Ah well, I tend to agree. I’ve always believed it’s super awkward to have a guy on the team who you know is getting traded. Especially an important guy. How could it not be a distraction?

There’s also injury risk.

I’d rather Conroy wait to get better value. We always scream Andersson could get injured, but there are better odds that a variety of teams could lose a top 4 d.

[flambers]

I get Rasmus may very well be a Flames right till the trade deadline, again in my opinion this is a gamble.

He plays a hard style, injury is likely for a player with this style,

It will be interesting to see how this plays out,