2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

They had a similar deal to trade Lucic instead
He blocked it

W...T....F.....Dislike him even more now if true.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Niemo

W...T....F.....Dislike him even more now if true.

Flames chose to honour lucic's NMC despite it becoming invalid when he was initially traded to the Flames.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Lol selective memories! Y'all. I know people around here were bashing Monahan. I was one of the only ones not doing so, and was rallying against the idea of dumping him daily. I remember it well.

At the time did you have alternatives to clear space that you proposed?

[Monahammer]

No, i was posting about how signing Kadri and trying to compete with that core was a bad idea. Which, in retrospect, it absolutely was. I don't know how you can look back at the trade, with all benefit of hindsight, and not see it as a catastrophic mistake for the franchise.
But we disagree! I accept that we disagree.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

No, i was posting about how signing Kadri and trying to compete with that core was a bad idea. Which, in retrospect, it absolutely was. I don't know how you can look back at the trade, with all benefit of hindsight, and not see it as a catastrophic mistake for the franchise.
But we disagree! I accept that we disagree.

Catastrophic? That sounds terrible.

Did people lose their houses? Was someone horribly disfigured or killed?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

No, i was posting about how signing Kadri and trying to compete with that core was a bad idea. Which, in retrospect, it absolutely was. I don't know how you can look back at the trade, with all benefit of hindsight, and not see it as a catastrophic mistake for the franchise.
But we disagree! I accept that we disagree.

Well that's the bigger debate. If one believes that they should have re-built at the time, which is valid, then basically every move they made was the wrong one.
But if you accept the reality that they were not going to re-build and examine this deal through that lens, then the deal makes sense.

In either case, I just can't see how it is catastrophic. At the end of the day, they traded a mid round pick for a forward who has been their leading producer, and has latent value that can still be extracted should they trade him.

This franchise has made catastrophic deals. This ain't one of them.

[dammage79]

Keep Monahan over signing Kadri may have aided the Flames in getting a higher pick during the year down. And....they'd have been able to keep their own 25 1st in the process. It would have been a better move in hindsight given how everyone else was skipping town.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

No, i was posting about how signing Kadri and trying to compete with that core was a bad idea. Which, in retrospect, it absolutely was. I don't know how you can look back at the trade, with all benefit of hindsight, and not see it as a catastrophic mistake for the franchise.
But we disagree! I accept that we disagree.

Idk how one can think it was catastrophic when we just acquired a 115 point winger and wanted a more healthy, better two way forward in Kadri who is very much a play driver. Had more to do with the fact that Huberdeau didn’t pan out here. The hate on the Kadri signing is wild. Not only that, but it was very possible that Monahan was never going to be the same player he was. Unfortunately for us (and very fortunate for Monahan and his career), he is doing just fine.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Well that's the bigger debate. If one believes that they should have re-built at the time, which is valid, then basically every move they made was the wrong one.
But if you accept the reality that they were not going to re-build and examine this deal through that lens, then the deal makes sense.

In either case, I just can't see how it is catastrophic. At the end of the day, they traded a mid round pick for a forward who has been their leading producer, and has latent value that can still be extracted should they trade him.

This franchise has made catastrophic deals. This ain't one of them.

I don't think we can find common ground on this. Signing Huberdeau and Trading Monahan with a first was a turning point into a bleak era of hockey. One which we wont know the depth of until it is over, which is yet to be determined.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I don't think we can find common ground on this. Signing Huberdeau and Trading Monahan with a first was a turning point into a bleak era of hockey. One which we wont know the depth of until it is over, which is yet to be determined.

Guessing I enjoyed the plucky season last year from the local team more than you did ...

[Monahammer]

There's no hate on Kadri. This is a fine player. But in full retrospect, that was the wrong move to make.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Keep Monahan over signing Kadri may have aided the Flames in getting a higher pick during the year down. And....they'd have been able to keep their own 25 1st in the process. It would have been a better move in hindsight given how everyone else was skipping town.

Again all that is underpinned by a decision to compete.
We can debate if trying to compete was the right move. But once the team decided they were going to try to compete - you have to then evaluate if the moves made sense under that premise.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

There's no hate on Kadri. This is a fine player. But in full retrospect, that was the wrong move to make.

What move should have been made then? We lost a top 6 center to injury and needed one.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

If Kadri was worth more than a 1st, I think he would have been traded already. But I guess you never know.

I doubt Kadri is basing his veto on whether he uproots his family and moves to a different city on the basis of whether he is worth a 1st round pick or not but that is just my opinion.

[Monahammer]

I advocated to try and sign Dylan Strome. Again, in retrospect, that would have been a better move.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I advocated to try and sign Dylan Strome. Again, in retrospect, that would have been a better move.

We did not have enough cap space to sign Strome without trading Monahan or Lucic. So that would not have worked. We could have kept Monahan and signed a player for about 700K cap hit, not sure who that center would have been, they would have had to have been on a two way and played at least 20% of the year in the AHL.

[Johnny Makarov]

The Monny trade was made to look even worse when the Jets overpaid and gave up a 1st for him.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Guessing I enjoyed the plucky season last year from the local team more than you did ...

You definitely enjoyed it more than myself. I didn’t find much enjoyment from one of the lowest scoring teams who had no realistic chance of playoff success combined with a mid-late first round draft pick. Thankfully being a new parent has given me more fun things to do instead of watching this version of the team.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

No, i was posting about how signing Kadri and trying to compete with that core was a bad idea. Which, in retrospect, it absolutely was. I don't know how you can look back at the trade, with all benefit of hindsight, and not see it as a catastrophic mistake for the franchise.
But we disagree! I accept that we disagree.

Catastrophic is a little dramatic.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Again all that is underpinned by a decision to compete.
We can debate if trying to compete was the right move. But once the team decided they were going to try to compete - you have to then evaluate if the moves made sense under that premise.

I'm fully aware of the organizational mandate the Flames operate under. The Monahan/Kadria maneuver was Trelivings final move that ended his tenure . Like I said in my previous post, in hindsight, the better and smarter move was to keep Monahan and let Kadri sign elsewhere.

That doesn't mean I don't understand that signing Kadri and moving Monahan wasnt about attempting to replace a key part of the core they were attempting to keep. But it didn't matter ....in hindsight. They still left.

I actually think an argument could be made keeping Monahan would have aided the Flames in keeping the players they wanted to keep. But that's neither here nor there and is a full blown whataboutism that can't really stand up.

doesnt matter in the end. This is the reality we live in and they're doing a pretty good job building up while trying to be a playoff team.

Can't wait for the pre season or any more trades or moves they may make.