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Ark2 · 09-17-2010, 08:41 AM

Not sure on the level of interest around here, but Trent Reznor is doing the score for The Social Network and he released a 5 song sampler today. You can download it for free here:

http://www.nullco.com/TSN/

Redliner · 09-17-2010, 09:03 AM

Was a NIN fan back in the Pretty Hate Machine days, right up until Further Down the Spiral then my interest dropped off a bit, although I really liked With Teeth. Didn't have Trent Reznor pegged for a soundtrack in a movie about facebook though.

cKy · 09-17-2010, 09:08 AM

Wheres flip when we need him.

NiN is awesome. By far the best live show I have seen. I appreciate he has branched off and tried different styles of music (going from hard remixes to slower drum and bass style) although I may not of liked all of it, there is no denying his talent.

Bob · 09-17-2010, 09:14 AM

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Wheres flip when we need him.

NiN is awesome. By far the best live show I have seen. I appreciate he has branched off and tried different styles of music (going from hard remixes to slower drum and bass style) although I may not of liked all of it, there is no denying his talent.

I've heard amazing things about their recent tour. "Light in the Sky", wasn't it? There's also that free concert video (Another Version of the Truth, or The Gift, or something) made entirely by fans from raw HD footage (that was made freely available, IIRC) that looked pretty cool.

cKy · 09-17-2010, 09:22 AM

Light in the sky sounds familiar. It's a shame he quit touring since his shows got better and better.

I also appreciate that he knows he is loaded and basically just gives his stuff away for free now. I remember the NiN site used to have links to all his music videos for download too. No one at that time even considered doing that.

icecube · 09-17-2010, 10:12 AM

Lights in the sky was also the best concert I've ever seen. I went twice and wanted to go a third time. I think Trent is a genius and I know his involvement will make the movie more atmospheric and engaging to the audience.

I'm confident he'll gain many new fans of his work after the movie's released.

bradster57 · 09-17-2010, 10:47 AM

I read Trent mentioning this movie is actually pretty dark.

Light in the Sky was a great show. His wife put out an EP this year in How To Destroy Angels. If you're into NIN, this is basically NIN with a female singer and I really like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmu2-SWm0Ac

Lithium · 09-17-2010, 11:20 AM

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Light in the sky sounds familiar. It's a shame he quit touring since his shows got better and better.

I also appreciate that he knows he is loaded and basically just gives his stuff away for free now. I remember the NiN site used to have links to all his music videos for download too. No one at that time even considered doing that.

Can see every video and listen to every song in its entirety with the NIN iPhone app, whichis also free!

REDVAN · 09-17-2010, 11:45 AM

To answer your original question: No.

FlamesAddiction · 09-17-2010, 11:50 AM

I thought there was a brief time when they (or Trent Reznor) were/was great, but they didn't maintain the quality for very long. In fact, Reznor seems more like the little rich kid with all the toys trying to rebel. His music is the metal version or pop singers using auto-tune.

cKy · 09-17-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I thought there was a brief time when they (or Trent Reznor) were/was great, but they didn't maintain the quality for very long. In fact, Reznor seems more like the little rich kid with all the toys trying to rebel. His music is the metal version or pop singers using auto-tune.

I think atleast you can appreciate the talent behind it compared to some teeny bopper having everything produced/written for them.

As far as I know, and please correct me if I am wrong, but he does all the mixing and producing himself. Not a lot of people in music have the ability/power to do that anymore.

FlamesAddiction · 09-17-2010, 12:38 PM

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I think atleast you can appreciate the talent behind it compared to some teeny bopper having everything produced/written for them.

As far as I know, and please correct me if I am wrong, but he does all the mixing and producing himself. Not a lot of people in music have the ability/power to do that anymore.

I think he does most of it himself, but I think those 2 guys from Filter used to help him out too. NiN was never the same after they left imo... there was just something missing.

Luder · 09-17-2010, 12:58 PM

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I think he does most of it himself, but I think those 2 guys from Filter used to help him out too. NiN was never the same after they left imo... there was just something missing.

NIN has always been Trent Reznor, most of the other musicians were hired for touring purposes, pretty much anything recorded on the albums by another musician was something written by Trent and they were told to play it. Richard Patrick of Filter got into NIN because "he wanted to get his name on an album's liner notes"(Pretty Hate Machine) and was then hired to tour.If I'm not mistaken, Patrick's whole reason for leaving NIN was because he had no creative input, same with Chris Vrenna.

From With Teeth on, it would seem that Trent let go of complete creative control and let some of the other guys have input on the albums. I've only seen NIN 3 times, all since 2005, and each show had a different line-up of band members. (Drummer changed for all 3 shows, bass and lead guitar went from Twiggy/Aaron North to Justin Meldel Johnsen/Robin Finck)

*edit* If Flip was still around, I'd probably give him a run for his money as CP's biggest NIN fanboy =P

Flames Draft Watcher · 09-17-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I thought there was a brief time when they (or Trent Reznor) were/was great, but they didn't maintain the quality for very long. In fact, Reznor seems more like the little rich kid with all the toys trying to rebel. His music is the metal version or pop singers using auto-tune.

Couldn't disagree more.

FlamesAddiction · 09-17-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Luder

NIN has always been Trent Reznor, most of the other musicians were hired for touring purposes, pretty much anything recorded on the albums by another musician was something written by Trent and they were told to play it. Richard Patrick of Filter got into NIN because "he wanted to get his name on an album's liner notes"(Pretty Hate Machine) and was then hired to tour.If I'm not mistaken, Patrick's whole reason for leaving NIN was because he had no creative input, same with Chris Vrenna.

From With Teeth on, it would seem that Trent let go of complete creative control and let some of the other guys have input on the albums. I've only seen NIN 3 times, all since 2005, and each show had a different line-up of band members. (Drummer changed for all 3 shows, bass and lead guitar went from Twiggy/Aaron North to Justin Meldel Johnsen/Robin Finck)

*edit* If Flip was still around, I'd probably give him a run for his money as CP's biggest NIN fanboy =P

Brian Liesegang of Filter has engineering credits on Pretty Hate Machine and Downward Spiral as well.

Ark2 · 09-17-2010, 01:34 PM

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I think he does most of it himself, but I think those 2 guys from Filter used to help him out too. NiN was never the same after they left imo... there was just something missing.

As Luder said, NIN is Trent Reznor. He is the creative output for the band. You may not like his music, and I respect that, but equating NIN with "pop singers using auto-tune" is just plain wrong.

Metro Gnome · 09-17-2010, 01:37 PM

Interesting to see Fincher go back to Reznor. For what it's worth, my fandom of NiN began with the opening credits of Seven:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEZK7mJoPLY

I wasn't terribly interested in the Social Network when I heard the premise (despite the fact I love Fincher as a director) but it's really starting to sound like a film worth seeing.

FlamesAddiction · 09-17-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ark2

As Luder said, NIN is Trent Reznor. He is the creative output for the band. You may not like his music, and I respect that, but equating NIN with "pop singers using auto-tune" is just plain wrong.

I realize that Trent Reznor is "NiN" and it is basically a one-man band on the recordings, but he uses a lot of technology to fine tune his songs similar to how supposed "one-man" popstars record their albums.

I don't hate all of his music. There was a time when Downward Spiral was my favourite album, and right now I probably have 4 or 5 songs on my regular rotation. I do think the vast majority of his songs are cheap fluff though... I like industrial music, but Trent Reznor always struck me as a bit of a glam boy. He did to industrial what bands like Good Charlotte do to punk rock.

Give me Al Jourgensen any day over Trent Reznor.

Luder · 09-17-2010, 02:18 PM

Trent has never denied using a "pop" structure to write the majority of his songs. IMHO, I find that once you accept that NIN is basically "pop with edge" (much like most of today's country is pop with twang) you enjoy the band for what it is more so than trying to pin it down to one category and then getting upset that those boundries have been breached. Hell, at one time I would think KMFDM was probably considered "industrial"

If I wanted to listen to "industrial" Ill pull out Ministry/Skinny Puppy/Frontline Assembly.

Ark2 · 09-17-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Luder

Trent has never denied using a "pop" structure to write the majority of his songs. IMHO, I find that once you accept that NIN is basically "pop with edge" (much like most of today's country is pop with twang) you enjoy the band for what it is more so than trying to pin it down to one category and then getting upset that those boundries have been breached. Hell, at one time I would think KMFDM was probably considered "industrial"

If I wanted to listen to "industrial" Ill pull out Ministry/Skinny Puppy/Frontline Assembly.

Not recent Skinny Puppy though...