Calgary, World's 25 Best City To Live In

[Deelow]

See the List

All the Canadian cities covered by the survey appear in the top 20 rankings for personal safety and security. Calgary, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, and Vancouver rank jointly in position 18 with scores of 112.

The real question is...why isn't Edmonton #1? Actually Edmonton didn't crack the top 50, must be some sort of error.

[calf]

If I read correctly, Edmonton didn't even get surveyed.


but quit showing your inferiority complex towards Edmonton you jealous Calgarian you!!!

[Superfraggle]

Toronto??!!! . I have heard nothing but bad about living there

[peter12]

That's funny that Glasgow is Britain's safest city. I beleive it was basically Britain's Compton about 10-15 years ago.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

As much as I love living in B.C. and will admit Vancouver is a visually beautiful city, I can't believe with 'personal safety' and 'security' being factors that Vancouver ranked so high.

That is a pretty scary place to visit sometimes.

I have three close friends that live down there. One has had a car stolen, one had his place broken into and the other has been stabbed at a gas station. And all three are pretty quiet, easy going people, not gangsters.

I know that's a pretty small sample size, but I'm surprised nevertheless.

[The Goon]

Originally posted by Superfraggle@Mar 15 2005, 06:02 PM
Toronto??!!! . I have heard nothing but bad about living there

I lived there for 32 years. It's a great city to live in.

Calgary's better, though.

[GreaseIsTheWord]

The criteria is only for cities with a metro population over a million, so I've heard. Calgary joined the millionaires club before we did.

[Daradon]

Before you did? If it's metro pop you still got about 300,000 to go. The 900,000+ pop of Edmonton is including suburbs way the heck out there...

[Sammie]

Originally posted by Daradon@Mar 15 2005, 11:27 PM
Before you did? If it's metro pop you still got about 300,000 to go. The 900,000+ pop of Edmonton is including suburbs way the heck out there...

I think Edmonton included Red Deer, Grand Prairie, and Fort McMurray in their population count. They're desperate about hanging out with the big boys. It makes a person almost feel sorry for them ... and then they're dumb enough to say something really, REALLY stupid ... and life returns to normal.

[GreaseIsTheWord]

Our notable metro areas include St. Albert and Sherwood Park.

You're welcome in advance.

[Thunderball]

Originally posted by GreaseIsTheWord@Mar 16 2005, 12:31 AM
Our notable metro areas include St. Albert and Sherwood Park.

You're welcome in advance.

I think what they're making fun of is the fact that Metro Edmonton is something like 9000 sq.km, and stretches all the way to Drayton Valley, while M.D. 33 isn't even considered a part of Metro Calgary. (or at least thats the way it was last time I looked)

[Deelow]

Originally posted by GreaseIsTheWord@Mar 16 2005, 04:27 AM
The criteria is only for cities with a metro population over a million, so I've heard. Calgary joined the millionaires club before we did.

Wellington, NZ (ranked 14) has a metro of under 500, 000. I think Bern, Switerland is smaller than Saskatoon.

[KevanGuy]

Originally posted by Deelow+Mar 16 2005, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Deelow @ Mar 16 2005, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GreaseIsTheWord@Mar 16 2005, 04:27 AM
The criteria is only for cities with a metro population over a million, so I've heard. Calgary joined the millionaires club before we did.

Wellington, NZ (ranked 14) has a metro of under 500, 000. I think Bern, Switerland is smaller than Saskatoon. [/b][/quote]
And all of Luxembourg is only around 440,000. I guess Edmonton wasn't high profile enough to be rated?

[Daradon]

Grease...

Sorry, I confused metro pop with city proper pop.

STILL...

2001 Actual* 2004 Estimate

Edmonton City Proper: 666,104 707,271
Edmonton Metro Area: 937,845 999,769

That's a heck of a lot of communities and people the city likes to include in it's metro pop. The actual population of Edmonton according to their own civic census is still less that 700,000. And if you look at the maps, they draw the lines WILDLY ouside the civic area when talking about metro pop.

As for the rest of the thread...

If this is the same poll that ranked us 1st in cleanliness last year, and often ranks Vancouver in the top 3 overall in the world, it's an international organzation used for expats when they are considering moving cities and countries because of business moves. Edmonton is not on this list because they gauge it as basically the same as Calgary. Calgary got picked of the two because we're larger with a stronger commercial,m banking, and head office base and more expats. At least that's what the news said last year. Places like Bern are listed even though they might be smaller because they don't have a comparative city.

[Abstract]

Originally posted by peter12@Mar 16 2005, 01:09 AM
That's funny that Glasgow is Britain's safest city. I beleive it was basically Britain's Compton about 10-15 years ago.

Its still a rough city so im a bit surprised. The city centre is really nice now and the riverfront is unrecognisable but it has some areas (Govan, Gorbals, Easterhouse) which are not far off being slums to be honest.

[Sammie]

Even Edmonton's one claim to fame, the West Edmonton Mall, is no longer the biggest mall in the world. Too bad! So sad!

[nieuwy-89]

I'm an Edmontonian, and a reasonably proud one at that, but the fact is that everyone outside of the Capital Region views Edmonton as a blue-collar industrial branch plant of Calgary. That's the reality.

I think the future of Edmonton is tied closely with the research and health care centres at the U of A, rather than the private sector which drives Calgary and other major cities.

Oh, and everyone south of Leduc thinks that it's always 20 degrees colder in Edmonton than it really is!

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally posted by KootenayFlamesFan@Mar 16 2005, 03:28 AM
As much as I love living in B.C. and will admit Vancouver is a visually beautiful city, I can't believe with 'personal safety' and 'security' being factors that Vancouver ranked so high.

That is a pretty scary place to visit sometimes.

I have three close friends that live down there. One has had a car stolen, one had his place broken into and the other has been stabbed at a gas station. And all three are pretty quiet, easy going people, not gangsters.

I know that's a pretty small sample size, but I'm surprised nevertheless.

I cant agree with that. Granted I have lived in Vancouver all my life, so my bias will show. But Vancouver is a very safe place to live. There are certain areas that are worse than others, but that is not unlike any other major city. The worst that has happened to me crime wise was my car being broken into and that never really affected me physically. Vancouver is a great place to live. Their hockey team and fans........well thats a different story

[An Old Edmonton Poster]

Originally posted by Daradon@Mar 16 2005, 06:41 PM
That's a heck of a lot of communities and people the city likes to include in it's metro pop. The actual population of Edmonton according to their own civic census is still less that 700,000.

Vancouver's population is only around 600K, and it's metero is around 2M..

[An Old Edmonton Poster]

Originally posted by Sammie@Mar 16 2005, 06:44 PM
Even Edmonton's one claim to fame, the West Edmonton Mall, is no longer the biggest mall in the world. Too bad! So sad!

What are you talking about? It's still the biggest, and they're expanding it...