11-11-2010, 09:01 PM
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A World Without Islam
Just came across this on Yahoo. Book by Graham Fuller on what is it that really ticks of Muslims against the West.
Here's a short clip (7 minutes) of Fuller explaining his book and study.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...9549&ch=224106
Interesting view by a former CIA dude.
Edit - forgot to add "Start the debate"
Last edited by Da_Chief; 11-11-2010 at 09:04 PM.
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11-11-2010, 09:15 PM
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All I can get
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Undoubtedly a fatwa will be issued against the author.
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11-11-2010, 09:16 PM
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i'd prefer a world without religion
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11-11-2010, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Undoubtedly a fatwa will be issued against the author.
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Did you watch the clip at all?
Please watch the clip.
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11-11-2010, 09:23 PM
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Did you watch the clip at all?
Please watch the clip.
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Yes I watched the clip.
Unfortunately, rationality never gets in the way of a good fatwa.
Ask the artist formerly known as Molly Norris.
Graham Fuller has written a book called "A World Without Islam." That's all the hook they need.
Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 11-11-2010 at 09:25 PM.
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11-11-2010, 09:26 PM
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
They are going to call a Rico Fatwa.
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That's originally an icarus line. Good steal though. 
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11-11-2010, 09:34 PM
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It's not a very interesting or deep premise though. It's basically just: "people will be people, war will always happen, we'd just find something else to fight over, they just hate us occupying their countries, etc." even if Islam didn't exist.
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11-11-2010, 10:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
i'd prefer a world without religion
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religion, albeit distasteful to me was a natural evolutionary "tool" of our species. Without it I don't think we would have been as successful as we were
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11-11-2010, 10:09 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
religion, albeit distasteful to me was a natural evolutionary "tool" of our species. Without it I don't think we would have been as successful as we were
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How do you figure that?
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11-11-2010, 10:13 PM
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I don't figure it, I just agree with it. A dude with a degree a lot smarter than me did a lecture on it and it was very compelling. Ill post the link when I find it
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11-11-2010, 10:18 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
If only Zeus was the true God.
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I think that we need more gods who are willing to turn themselves into cows just so they can pork your wife.
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11-11-2010, 10:24 PM
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i think religion has held back human advancement more than it has helped. look at how far advanced the Romans were at their height, compared to the dark ages that followed after Christianity was born. you had the Roman church imprisoning Galileo for trying to advance scientific thinking, and calling Charles Darwin a heretic. and today you have the church telling an AIDS plagued Africa to not use condoms, fighting against stem cell research, and schools in America actually debating on whether to teach creationism over evolution
every religion in the world seems focused on tradition, faith in old beliefs, and very hesitant to change. that flies in the face of advancement
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11-11-2010, 10:45 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
religion, albeit distasteful to me was a natural evolutionary "tool" of our species. Without it I don't think we would have been as successful as we were
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i know christianity isn't all religions but...
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11-11-2010, 11:04 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
It's not a very interesting or deep premise though. It's basically just: "people will be people, war will always happen, we'd just find something else to fight over, they just hate us occupying their countries, etc." even if Islam didn't exist.
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I agree, hardly breakthrough.
I guess it would be if you were only looking through a one way lens.
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11-11-2010, 11:05 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
i think religion has held back human advancement more than it has helped. look at how far advanced the Romans were at their height, compared to the dark ages that followed after Christianity was born. you had the Roman church imprisoning Galileo for trying to advance scientific thinking, and calling Charles Darwin a heretic. and today you have the church telling an AIDS plagued Africa to not use condoms, fighting against stem cell research, and schools in America actually debating on whether to teach creationism over evolution
every religion in the world seems focused on tradition, faith in old beliefs, and very hesitant to change. that flies in the face of advancement
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where were you when Hoz was all up in arms when I made that comment?
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11-11-2010, 11:07 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by T@T
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careful Hoz demands proof
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11-11-2010, 11:18 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by TriCitiesHockeyFan
i know christianity isn't all religions but...
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The best part of that chart is how it assumes all other religions and cultures didnt exist. What was up with Asia and the Muslims at this time?
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11-12-2010, 12:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
I don't figure it, I just agree with it.
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