Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-26-2011, 08:44 PM   #1
Wise Gamble
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Exp:
Default Probability Question

Lets say you had a perfect coin and you flipped it 1 million times. After 1 million flips it would likely be approximately 50% Heads and approximately 50% Tails and it would always stay within 1% of that no matter how many more times you flipped it. Now, if you were to glue together a Dime and a Penny and you flipped it 1 million times you would have an accurate answer as to how likely it is to land Penny side up versus Dime side up. My question is, what is the MINIMUM number of flips you could give it without the percentage ever changing again more than 3% either way?

I have no idea what the answer is by the way.
Wise Gamble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 08:53 PM   #2
newts
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Exp:
Default

Cocaine is a helluva drug
newts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 08:54 PM   #3
MacGruber
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

MacGruber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 08:55 PM   #4
Cecil Terwilliger
That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
 
Cecil Terwilliger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
Exp:
Default

All I know is that the probability of you getting any serious answers is pretty low.

Also, wouldn't it land on the penny side down almost all the time because the penny is heavier?
Cecil Terwilliger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 09:01 PM   #5
Wise Gamble
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Exp:
Default

Maybe...that's what I'm wondering
Wise Gamble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 09:02 PM   #6
Jbo
NOT a cool kid
 
Jbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Um.....what?
Jbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 09:36 PM   #7
Bagor
Franchise Player
 
Bagor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
Exp:
Default

42
__________________


Bagor is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Bagor For This Useful Post:
Old 03-26-2011, 09:38 PM   #8
Bagor
Franchise Player
 
Bagor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
Exp:
Default

wrong thread
__________________


Bagor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 09:46 PM   #9
Flames in 07
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Exp:
Default

I'll take a stab at it:

The answer is infinity. Even after a million flips there is still a chance that you could change the the total by more than 3%, albeit, extremely unlikely. Possibly you are wondering within a confidence of 99.99%, however the answer to the question you have stated is infinity.
Flames in 07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 09:49 PM   #10
Reggie Dunlop
All I can get
 
Reggie Dunlop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

If a Vancouver Canuck players falls down in a forest, is it a dive?
Reggie Dunlop is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Reggie Dunlop For This Useful Post:
Old 03-26-2011, 09:49 PM   #11
chummer
Franchise Player
 
chummer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Exp:
Default

You might find the answer here-


http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-question.html
chummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 10:07 PM   #12
Bagor
Franchise Player
 
Bagor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
Exp:
Default

wrong thread ..... again
__________________


Bagor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 11:11 PM   #13
DownhillGoat
Franchise Player
 
DownhillGoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Exp:
Default

What's the probability that Bagor posts in the right thread?
DownhillGoat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to DownhillGoat For This Useful Post:
Old 03-26-2011, 11:20 PM   #14
Kidder
Franchise Player
 
Kidder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: nexus of the universe
Exp:
Default

11 cents.
__________________
Would there even be no trade clauses if Edmonton was out of the NHL? - fotze
Kidder is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Kidder For This Useful Post:
Old 03-26-2011, 11:38 PM   #15
Jbo
NOT a cool kid
 
Jbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kunkstyle View Post
What's the probability that Bagor posts in the right thread?
Out of thanks.

made me laugh
Jbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 11:53 PM   #16
Montana Moe
First Line Centre
 
Montana Moe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Exp:
Default

Sounds like you'll wager on anything. Therefore, I question your username...
Montana Moe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 12:05 AM   #17
burnin_vernon
Powerplay Quarterback
 
burnin_vernon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

burnin_vernon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 01:03 AM   #18
kirant
Franchise Player
 
kirant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
and it would always stay within 1% of that no matter how many more times you flipped it.
? The heck?
If we have 500 000 heads and 500 000 tails to start, it would only take 20408 more flips of one side only to change the value from 50% to 51% (.5 + x = .51(1+x), x in millions of flips).
__________________
kirant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 01:53 AM   #19
worth
Franchise Player
 
worth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

why are you just sitting there asking the question? glue the god damn penny to the dime and get flipping. kids these days...
worth is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to worth For This Useful Post:
4X4
Old 03-27-2011, 03:03 AM   #20
Phanuthier
Franchise Player
 
Phanuthier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wise Gamble View Post
Lets say you had a perfect coin and you flipped it 1 million times. After 1 million flips it would likely be approximately 50% Heads and approximately 50% Tails and it would always stay within 1% of that no matter how many more times you flipped it. Now, if you were to glue together a Dime and a Penny and you flipped it 1 million times you would have an accurate answer as to how likely it is to land Penny side up versus Dime side up. My question is, what is the MINIMUM number of flips you could give it without the percentage ever changing again more than 3% either way?

I have no idea what the answer is by the way.
This is just a Bernoulli probability, isn't it?

P(k) = nCk * p^k * (1-p)^(n-k) = 3%

where p = probability of Penny side up, which you can't really determine without knowing how the penny/dime is weighted.

Solve for k

i think ???

(I just googled up, apparently a dime and penny both weigh 2.5g. But I guess you were asking for a weighted example.)
__________________
"With a coach and a player, sometimes there's just so much respect there that it's boils over"
-Taylor Hall

Last edited by Phanuthier; 03-27-2011 at 03:06 AM.
Phanuthier is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:19 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy