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narbeZ · 08-23-2010, 07:51 PM

Has anyone on this board went through the "jure sanguinis" way of becoming an Italian Citizen? Turns out my my great-grandfather didn't become a Canadian citizen until after my Grandpa was born, thus allowing me to become an Italian Citizen by Blood right.

This is actually pretty cool, as half of my family will become Citizen's of Italy, thus being apart of the EU.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone on CP went through this process and has any advice for me. I'm thinking I should head up to EDMONTON and talk to some paesan in the consulate.

worth · 08-23-2010, 08:33 PM

I had a friend who did it and it took him probably 8 months or so to become a citizen. And that was with 3 or 4 phone calls to get the ball rolling.

I would call before you actually drive anywhere. It's a long process, and driving up to Edmonton is likley a waste of time for more than one reason, but I digress.

Sidney Crosby's Hat · 08-23-2010, 09:32 PM

Your father needs to have been an Italian citizen when you were born also, I believe? I went this route but was denied because my father (born in Italy) got his Canadian citizenship about four years before I was born.

narbeZ · 08-23-2010, 09:47 PM

From what I understand this is my exact situation.

My maternal grandfather was born in my native country (Canada) my maternal great grandfather was an Italian citizen at the time of his birth. No one has renounced their Italian citizenship so I qualify according to www.myitaliancitizenship.com. I figured a phone call would be the best bet. It's pretty overwhelming as you need to fully document the chain and a lot of the documents need to be translated into Italian.

REDVAN · 08-23-2010, 11:17 PM

Other than using it to get with chicks, is there any practical reason you'd want to be Italian?

I'm Canadian through and through, no chance to be anything else (that I know of) and even if I could, I don't see any benefits.

narbeZ · 08-24-2010, 05:40 AM

The main benefit I figure in becoming a Jure Sanguinus Italian citizen is that you are allowed to live and work freely in all European countries that are part of the EU. It would probably look good on a resume to have dual citizenship. Chicks would be a side effect of all of this

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Rathji · 08-24-2010, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by REDVAN

Other than using it to get with chicks, is there any practical reason you'd want to be Italian?

I'm Canadian through and through, no chance to be anything else (that I know of) and even if I could, I don't see any benefits.

If you or your kids ever wanted to get a job in Europe (or the US, or whatever other country you had citizenship with), it would be about a hundred times easier. Also, helps with travel but I personally don't see that as enough of a reason on its own to bother with it.

bizaro86 · 08-24-2010, 08:31 PM

My wife has done a similar thing with Ireland. If its possible for you I'd consider it, although I'd be careful about potential consequences. You'd have the rights of an Italian citizen, but also the responsibilities. They used to have military conscription in Italy.

Michael

Yeah_Baby · 08-24-2010, 08:36 PM

I think you have to not shave for a week to qualify.

GirlySports · 08-24-2010, 08:42 PM

You have to pass a diving test too.

Peanut · 08-24-2010, 08:48 PM

I'm currently apart of the EU.

FlamesAddiction · 08-24-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Your father needs to have been an Italian citizen when you were born also, I believe? I went this route but was denied because my father (born in Italy) got his Canadian citizenship about four years before I was born.

Did he officially renounce his Italian citizenship, or does that matter for Italy? When my father became a Canadian citizen, he never officially renouced his Bosnian citizenship and after talking to the new Bosnian ambassador, they said that they still recognize him as a citizen of Bosnia. They also said that the naturalization process for me could be relaxed if I wanted to make a case for citizenship, however I have not pursued it yet. I might though... I bought some land there recently.

fatso · 08-24-2010, 09:01 PM

My understanding is you can qualify in moving to the Jersey Shore for a summer.

GreenTeaFrapp · 08-24-2010, 09:28 PM

I think you'd have better luck getting info if you'd lower yourself to talk to people who have a couple day's worth of stubble.

Jayems · 08-24-2010, 09:33 PM

It's kind of cool. I was born in England. As soon as my daughter was born, she automatically became a British citizen.

We'll be signing her up for all the papers and passports and the like next April when we go home in the hopes that one day she expresses an interest in living in the UK/Europe to work, go to school, travel... whatever she wants. At least she'll have that option.

So why doesn't that work with Italy? Just different?

Yeah_Baby · 08-24-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayems

It's kind of cool. I was born in England. As soon as my daughter was born, she automatically became a British citizen.

We'll be signing her up for all the papers and passports and the like next April when we go home in the hopes that one day she expresses an interest in living in the UK/Europe to work, go to school, travel... whatever she wants. At least she'll have that option.

So why doesn't that work with Italy? Just different?

I confess I didn't read your post. I keep looking at your avatar. Your horse is amazing!

Jayems · 08-24-2010, 09:38 PM

It tastes just like raisins.

narbeZ · 08-24-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayems

It's kind of cool. I was born in England. As soon as my daughter was born, she automatically became a British citizen.

We'll be signing her up for all the papers and passports and the like next April when we go home in the hopes that one day she expresses an interest in living in the UK/Europe to work, go to school, travel... whatever she wants. At least she'll have that option.

So why doesn't that work with Italy? Just different?

It work's pretty much the same from what I understand. The only difference being if you become a citizen of canada before your daughter is born then she wouldn't have the right to become a British citizen(your example, Italy's rules).

I'm phoning the consulate tomorrow after I have a clean shave.

So I guess no-one on this board is an Italian Citizen Jure Sanguinus. Weird, I thought numbers were on my side.

4X4 · 08-24-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by narbeZ

I'm phoning the consulate tomorrow after I have a clean shave.

So I guess no-one on this board is an Italian Citizen Jure Sanguinus. Strange.

Tell Ambrosino I said hi. Wait. You wouldn't want to be associated with anyone that isn't clean shaven.

amorak · 08-24-2010, 10:16 PM

Won't work.

alone in this respect, bestows citizenship jure sanguinis. There is no limit of generations for the citizenship via blood, but the Italian ancestor born in Italian territories before 1861 had to die after 1861 anywhere (in Italian territory or abroad) but without losing the Italian citizenship before death in order to being able to continue the jure sanguinis chain. This is required because 1861 is the year that the Unification of the Italian territory took place. Another constraint is that each descendant of the ancestor through whom citizenship is claimed jure sanguinis can pass on citizenship only if they were a citizen at the time of the birth of the person to whom they are passing it. So, if one person in the chain renounces or otherwise loses their Italian citizenship, then has a child, that child is not an Italian citizen jure sanguinis. A further constraint is that citizenship could be passed on by women only after January 1, 1948. Those born before that date are not Italian citizens jure sanguinis if their line of descent from an Italian citizen depends on a female at some point. See Italian nationality law.