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Old 02-05-2012, 10:49 AM   #1
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http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/02/04...onour-killings

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Imam Syed Soharwardy, from Calgary, was surrounded by a dozen other Islamic Supreme Council of Canada members at the Jamia Riyadhul Jannah mosque in Mississauga on Saturday as he delivered the official religious edict — a bold step meant to prevent another tragedy like the Shafia family killings.
"Those who think honour killing is OK are dead wrong," Soharwardy said. "There is no place for violence in Islam."
"A very small minority" of Muslims think this way and they "need to be corrected," he added.
Very happy to see as most muslims do not believe in honour killings. I think it has to do more with cultural beliefs, but I know there are many who disagree with that.
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I think it's sad that Imams telling their congregation to not choke their women to death might actually be helpful.
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Its good too see this, I'm very happy to hear them stand up and speak out against that behavior.

Step 2 is to see more of this in the middle east, he's pretty safe doing it in North America.
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:00 AM   #4
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I think it's sad that Imams telling their congregation to not choke their women to death might actually be helpful.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

You'd probably be saying imams are enablers had they just said nothing.
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

You'd probably be saying imams are enablers had they just said nothing.
No, what I'm saying is that it's sad they need to say anything. It's ridiculous. that in 2012, that people would allow their moral compass to be so incredibly affected by what a leader at a church/mosque/synagogue says.
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No, what I'm saying is that it's sad they need to say anything. It's ridiculous. that in 2012, that people would allow their moral compass to be so incredibly affected by what a leader at a church/mosque/synagogue says.
Religion is only getting bigger, not smaller so I really don't understand the 2012 comment.

And no one is really saying anyone is going to be effected by the imam's comments. I bet this makes no difference at all as people with these crazy thoughts are usually so deep in their twisted beliefs that nothing will change it.
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Anything to bring an end to that barbaric attitude of killing a loved one for 'honour'.
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I think these people have a warped view of what honour really is.
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Religion is only getting bigger, not smaller so I really don't understand the 2012 comment.

And no one is really saying anyone is going to be effected by the imam's comments. I bet this makes no difference at all as people with these crazy thoughts are usually so deep in their twisted beliefs that nothing will change it.
the 2012 comments references the fact that in a modern age, in a western society with new tolerance being established for gays, minorities and such.
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Religion is only getting bigger, not smaller so I really don't understand the 2012 comment.
Because statistics show the opposite, religion is shrinking, organized religion especially.

The fastest growing segment world wide is often the non religious, non religious affiliated, agnostics, atheists, etc..
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Because statistics show the opposite, religion is shrinking, organized religion especially.

The fastest growing segment world wide is often the non religious, non religious affiliated, agnostics, atheists, etc..
Which statistics are these? Religion has never shrunk in the history of mankind and it's not about to shrink now.

There are one billion muslims in the world alone and you can just imagine how many children are being born in to this specific religion everyday.

I would like to see some statistics that show religion is shrinking.
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Ultimately, individuals make their own decisions regardless of religion or law. Having an Imam say it's wrong is symbolically nice, but I doubt it will make any difference.

Humans have been killibng each other forever and are going to continue to do so regardless of religion (same goes for many of our primate relatives). Unless you can find a way to genetically alter the species to no longer have emotions like greed, jealousy, disappointment, anger, etc...
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the 2012 comments references the fact that in a modern age, in a western society with new tolerance being established for gays, minorities and such.
How did we allow Slavery in a Western society? where is this tolerance you speak of?

Several years ago gays weren't even given the same rights as their hetrosexual friends and you are going off on Western society and modern age?
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I think it's sad that Imams telling their congregation to not choke their women to death might actually be helpful.
Don't think it's a matter of being helpful nor is he really talking directly as his congregation.
More a matter of speaking up against something they don't believe in that is associated with their religion.

Would you think it was sad if a Christian minister came out saying child molestation is wrong and shouldn't be condoned by anyone of the faith?
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One thing I have a beef with is the media referring to these acts as 'honour' killings. Call it was it is; murder. All I saw in the most recent case was every media outlet referring to it as an honour killing. It is extremely insulting to the victims and gives the sense that it was somehow justified.
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How did we allow Slavery in a Western society? where is this tolerance you speak of?

Several years ago gays weren't even given the same rights as their hetrosexual friends and you are going off on Western society and modern age?
I dont know if your trolling me or what but... I cant bother to respond. Go live as a woman in Iran for a few years and then come back here and preach to me about whatever.
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Don't think it's a matter of being helpful nor is he really talking directly as his congregation.
More a matter of speaking up against something they don't believe in that is associated with their religion.

Would you think it was sad if a Christian minister came out saying child molestation is wrong and shouldn't be condoned by anyone of the faith?
If it was presented as a ruling, then yeah it would be sad.
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I dont know if your trolling me or what but... I cant bother to respond. Go live as a woman in Iran for a few years and then come back here and preach to me about whatever.
How am I trolling you? you're the who initially replied to my post and I replied back. If you don't want to take part in an internet discussion, then don't.

This has nothing to do with Iran as we are talking about Canadian Imams.
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I think it's sad that Imams telling their congregation to not choke their women to death might actually be helpful.
i understand your point, it is sad that a reminder notice on such a thing is still needed in this day and age, and in this region of the world.

That being said, good on a religious figure to come out and say anything and even callout followers who believe any kind of violence is permitted religiously.
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