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Old 05-26-2012, 04:01 PM   #1
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Looks like the regime forces in Syria might have finally gone too far for the International Community's liking.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/26/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1


Thoughts on whether or not there's going to be direct intervention? Or are we looking at more of this "but you said you were going to stop!!!!" dialogue?
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:30 PM   #2
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The international community is worried about Iraq 2.0 with all the secretarian tensions. If they do decide to intervene it won't be "easy" like Libya.
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:34 PM   #3
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Bad situation, but what possible good outcome will there be if we get involved? Saddam killed his own people too at times.
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mostly young children too. sick. there is a youtube video showing some of the bodies. some things cant be unseen
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mostly young children too. sick. there is a youtube video showing some of the bodies. some things cant be unseen
They had a picture on the herald website. Cute little kids dead with their eyes open and throats slashed. I won't be forgetting that image anytime soon. I hope hell exists for people that did that.
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well i just saw a 7 year old with the top half of his head missing, something I won't forget anytime soon
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:57 PM   #7
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There are some conflicting reports on how it happened. I read indiscriminate artillery shelling in one place, but no mention of it elsewhere. It could be the opposition -- I have no doubt there are some bad, bad individuals fighting against the Syrian government, but it could just as easily have been the Syrian forces. I'm not so sure one is any better than the other, and its these kids that are stuck in the middle.
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:27 PM   #8
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This is a job for the Arab League. The UN or Western Powers helping out will not gain gratitude, only more scorn.

Of course the people there will be resentful and angry if we don't get involved too, since we can't win in that section of the world, we should just let them handle it themselves.
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Just a question, but should the goal of an intervention (in whatever form it may take) be to gain gratitude and not have them angry with us (the West), or to save the lives of victims like this? I'm not a politician, so I care less about whether they like us than about saving the lives of innocents and avoiding further massacres. There are far better ways to justify not being involved than wanting to avoid some people on television screaming obscenities in Arabic toward us.

There is, of course, always realpolitik involved, but an intervention backed by Western nations in the form of money, food, etc., while Arab League nations and/or Turkey does the air and possibly ground work may not be seen as such a bad thing by the people there, so long as they can create a united opposition (which they've failed to do to date). It's not like they're burning American flags and Obama effigies in Libya after that action. As far as public opinion goes, that whole deal went fairly swimmingly.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:10 PM   #10
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To think just one American Sub holds the key to history with it's 20 nukes on board....almost kidding
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:30 PM   #11
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It would be WWIII if the west tried to intervene there.
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