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Old 05-07-2010, 04:09 PM   #1
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Since the 4/20 thread was so "fun", I'm surprised nobody mentioned this yet. (Or if they did, I didn't see it. Sorry.)

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-92625814.html

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Justice Minister Rob Nicholson dropped broad hints Sunday that the new legislation would revive a controversial provision — a mandatory six-month sentence for people convicted of growing as few as five pot plants.
Downloading, pot... they sure seem to like imposing disproportionate penalties for (mostly) harmless fun.

FWIW, I've never consumed marijuana beyond second-hand smoke, and I am against this bill.

Have at 'er!
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Old 05-07-2010, 04:10 PM   #2
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It's all about the money....
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Old 05-07-2010, 04:14 PM   #3
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It's all about the money....
Yeah, it costs money to put people in jail.
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It's all about creating a climate of FEAR....
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We will stand tall, and stoned, against this bill.
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Its not going to pass anyways. The conservatives will be able to go back to their core support and say we tried to be harder on drugs, but we couldn't push it through.

It ain't going to happen.
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I'm not sure I get what the problem is. Growing marijiuana is part of drug traffiking no? Harsher penalties may help deter criminal and gang activities. Why would anyone be against this?
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Conservatives will pass any bill that makes them get richer. Hell most politicians do no matter the party.
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I don't know much about this stuff, so I'll ask some of the posters who know more... what's a reasonable number of plants for personal use? Yeah, I'm looking at you HOOT.

Basically, I couldn't care less if people grow for themselves, but if you've got a grow op, you're bringing all the associated criminal crap along with it, so you should go to gaol.
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I'm not sure I get what the problem is. Growing marijiuana is part of drug traffiking no? Harsher penalties may help deter criminal and gang activities. Why would anyone be against this?
The disproportionate amount of resources (tax money) spent on something that has a very minimal effect on society.
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Yeah, lets waste time on stupid bills like this.

If you want to get tough on crime, you get tough on bad crimes. Not petty stuff like this.
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I'm not sure I get what the problem is. Growing marijiuana is part of drug traffiking no? Harsher penalties may help deter criminal and gang activities. Why would anyone be against this?
Legalization would be a much better way of taking away from the drug dealers' earnings. Unfortunately, most politicians make decisions based on seemingly arbitrary criteria instead of any reasonable methods when it comes to drugs.
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Going after downloaders and pot smokers. Talk about a sure way to make sure you don't get re-elected.
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I'm not sure I get what the problem is. Growing marijiuana is part of drug traffiking no? Harsher penalties may help deter criminal and gang activities. Why would anyone be against this?
Because passing bills that make punishments stiffer does not have the desired effect. The harder and harder the government pushes on drugs the further under ground it gets. Look no further than the states for a country that spends ridiculous amounts on money to keep drugs out of their country and yet they still have a very huge drug issue down there.

If the government wanted to do something productive for once they would start regulating pot and underselling the dealers. You'd be taking money from drug dealers and gangs and putting it into tax payers pockets.
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The Conservatives are pretty conservative, socially.

Come on, vote Liberal. Your pot addiction wants to, your wallet doesn't
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If only the government would focus on fixing the already lax penalties for other serious crimes instead of wasting time introducing BS laws like this.
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Going after downloaders and pot smokers. Talk about a sure way to make sure you don't get re-elected.

Sounds like the Conservative MO.

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it up and spend ten years trying to figure out how you managed that. In progress.

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I'm not sure I get what the problem is. Growing marijiuana is part of drug traffiking no? Harsher penalties may help deter criminal and gang activities. Why would anyone be against this?
Growing five plants is not going to be enough to make any sort of profit for the person selling it. In all likelyhood is is entirely for personal use and will simply clog up the justice system with "criminals" who were a threat to society because they wanted to light up and grow a garden for personal use.
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Come on, vote Liberal. Your pot addiction wants to, your wallet doesn't
Actually your wallet does. Spending ballooned under the Conservatives, even before the downturn.
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I'm not sure I get what the problem is. Growing marijiuana is part of drug traffiking no? Harsher penalties may help deter criminal and gang activities. Why would anyone be against this?
5 plants??

For some property owners in certain areas (B.C. for example), you could literally have 5 plants growing on your acreage unknowingly.....

Beside that, I am guessing that 5 plants sounds more like a personal crop and not for trafficking purposes..
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