CFL rule changes being proposed

[calf]

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This one's interesting: making it illegal for a punter to kick out of bounds for more 'excitement in the game'. I'm not too sure about that one - I think it's great strategy, and it's exciting if the offence does a 108 yard drive, or if the team punting gets the ball back in good position to ram in a TD.

The other one: getting rid of the Rouge! I'm for this on the FG side - failure should not be rewarded, but if it's a punt that gets downed or goes through the endzone, it should be a point (especially considering downing it can be considered to have the same effect as the first rule proposed)

Thoughts?

[The Familia]

I would like to see the 5 yard safety zone on returners get taken away. All these American players still don't understand the 5 yards, plus it will bring a bit more excitment, and a few more big hits!

[JiriHrdina]

Originally posted by The Familia@Feb 22 2005, 12:20 PM
I would like to see the 5 yard safety zone on returners get taken away. All these American players still don't understand the 5 yards, plus it will bring a bit more excitment, and a few more big hits!

If you take away the no yards you have to allow for the fair catch to protect players from getting totally obliterated

Not sure if I like that better or not.

[Eddie Bronze]

Originally posted by calf@Feb 22 2005, 10:53 AM
The other one: getting rid of the Rouge! I'm for this on the FG side - failure should not be rewarded

I completely agree. I never understood why you would have a rule like that. You wouldn't give a point to a team who throws the ball in the end zone on fourth and goal but no catch is made. A missed field goal could win a Grey Cup, put a team out of the playoffs. Worst rule ever.

And now that the CFL are making rule revisions all I can hope for is that they can find some refs and umpires who can actually enforce them correctly. :P

[calf]

these are just proposed rule changes...the rouge has always been proposed as getting rid of, but has stayed.

ball in the end zone on fourth and goal but no

blasphemy!

[8 Ball]

I would have to agree with getting rid of the point for a missed field goal, as I have never undrestood the logic of it.
I disagree with penalizing out of bounds punts, I think that would change the game a little too much.

[Julio]

Originally posted by calf@Feb 22 2005, 10:53 AM
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The other one: getting rid of the Rouge! I'm for this on the FG side - failure should not be rewarded, but if it's a punt that gets downed or goes through the endzone, it should be a point (especially considering downing it can be considered to have the same effect as the first rule proposed)

Thoughts?

I don't see the rouge as a 'point for failure', I see it as a 'reward for kicking the ball into the end zone'. Remember, the other team can for the most part bring it out, even return the ball for a touchdown. It's a live play, unlike in the NFL where once the ball goes past the line of scrimmage it's just another dead kicking play, like PATs and most punts in the American game.

[Golden Jet]

Forget the new rules. The refs barely know the old ones!! Like a player or players onside on a punt.

[moon]

I don't want to see them take away rouge from punts and am indifferent to them taking away the point from a FG. Part of doesn't like them getting rid of the tradition and another part agrees with the whole rewarding failure aspect.

I see what they are trying to do with the punting out of bounds but I think that the league is excitng enough and this rule is unneccesary.

[octothorp]

I like the punting rules as they are--there definitely shouldn't be a penalty if the ball goes out of bounds on a bounce. If it goes directly out, sure, give them a five yard penalty, but nothing so serious that it would discourage punters from attempting to angle it out on the bounce. Personally, I love seeing a punt roll out of bounds on the two yard line.

I'd change the rouge rule similarly--a rouge can only be scored on a missed field goal if the ball lands in the endzone and either bounces out of bounds or is picked up by a returner who is then downed in the endzone. If the ball sails through the endzone without touching the ground, there's no single. This ensures that no rouge can be scored without the other team having a chance to return the ball.

Personally, I like the potential for a rouge in a tight game, where a team has to attempt a return because they can't afford to give up a huge point. If you eliminate the rouge, there's less incentive for returns, which would be too bad because missed field goals are where most returns for TDs happen.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally posted by octothorp@Feb 24 2005, 11:12 AM
I like the punting rules as they are--there definitely shouldn't be a penalty if the ball goes out of bounds on a bounce. If it goes directly out, sure, give them a five yard penalty, but nothing so serious that it would discourage punters from attempting to angle it out on the bounce. Personally, I love seeing a punt roll out of bounds on the two yard line.

I'd change the rouge rule similarly--a rouge can only be scored on a missed field goal if the ball lands in the endzone and either bounces out of bounds or is picked up by a returner who is then downed in the endzone. If the ball sails through the endzone without touching the ground, there's no single. This ensures that no rouge can be scored without the other team having a chance to return the ball.

Personally, I like the potential for a rouge in a tight game, where a team has to attempt a return because they can't afford to give up a huge point. If you eliminate the rouge, there's less incentive for returns, which would be too bad because missed field goals are where most returns for TDs happen.

I think you hit it dead on there. Let them punt it out if it hits the ground but if it goes out on the fall, bring it back to where they punted (as a rugby player I think this is the way it should be done). I also like your idea for the field goal rouge. If it lands in the endzone (punt or field goal) they gotta run it out. If it goes straight through, too bad, you should have taken a little off of it.

[Eddie Bronze]

Originally posted by calf@Feb 22 2005, 07:36 PM

blasphemy!