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Old 09-04-2009, 11:16 PM   #1
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According to the suit, police arrested Jamie Lockard, 53, on suspicion of drunken driving in March.

A Breathalyzer test showed he was under the legal limit, but Officer Brian Miller doubted the findings.
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Police said they obtained a warrant, but Lockard's attorney said his client was shackled to a gurney and had a catheter inserted against his will.
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The blood test showed that Lockard's blood-alcohol level did not exceed Indiana's legal limit, police said.

Garner said the police officer did not apologize, but instead charged Lockard with obstruction of justice.


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Old 09-04-2009, 11:18 PM   #2
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Police said they obtained a warrant, but Lockard's attorney said his client was shackled to a gurney and had a catheter inserted against his will.
That's the most important line in this story. Blame the judge/justice (or however it works down there) for signing off on it.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:20 PM   #3
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That's the most important line in this story. Blame the judge/justice (or however it works down there) for signing off on it.
The issue was with the way the urine sample was taken. Watch the video
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:22 PM   #4
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Betcha he's never going to drive with any sort of alcohol in him ever again.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:26 PM   #5
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Betcha he's never going to drive with any sort of alcohol in him ever again.
Why would he do that. He wasn't drunk and the blood and urine samples proved that and so did the breathalizer. The police didn't have to force catheterization on him - they could have waited until natured called. Shackeling a man to a gurney is a bit much.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:40 PM   #6
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Good news everyone, forced catheterizations for all!!

This is above and beyond, the guy was within the legal limits and thus his legal rights. The officer and the judge should be sentenced to a rashambo competition with that guy going first while wearing wingtips....
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:45 PM   #7
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I hope he sues their pants off.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:49 PM   #8
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Is catherterization ever a voluntary act?
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:06 AM   #9
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Is catherterization ever a voluntary act?
Yup, I think it sometimes probably is. Ever see the show 'Kink'. The host english dude had his sack nailed to a board in one show.

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Yup, I think it sometimes probably is. Ever see the show 'Kink'. The host english dude had his sack nailed to a board in one show.

I could have gone on quite well in life without ever hearing either of these facts.
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Old 09-05-2009, 08:37 AM   #11
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Why would he do that. He wasn't drunk and the blood and urine samples proved that and so did the breathalizer. The police didn't have to force catheterization on him - they could have waited until natured called. Shackeling a man to a gurney is a bit much.
Of course it is. The article implies that 0 < his BAL < legal limit. So he had some alcohol in his system, just not enough to be charged. Point being, after this, even though he was innocent of breaking that law, he's not likely to ever drive with booze in his system again. The legality of what they did is an entirely different kettle of fish.
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Of course it is. The article implies that 0 < his BAL < legal limit. So he had some alcohol in his system, just not enough to be charged. Point being, after this, even though he was innocent of breaking that law, he's not likely to ever drive with booze in his system again. The legality of what they did is an entirely different kettle of fish.
True. Almost like someone should start a thread about it, citing a news story emphasizing that very issue.
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Is this another case of the guy behaving like an ass? What happened that the police charged him with obstruction of justice.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:50 PM   #14
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Not sure why they needed the urine if they already had a blood sample. Blood alcohol is the most sensitive and specific.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:33 PM   #15
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Brings a whole new meaning to "getting the shaft".
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:43 PM   #17
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the 2 times i was catheterized i was never asked permission
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Of course it is. The article implies that 0 < his BAL < legal limit. So he had some alcohol in his system, just not enough to be charged. Point being, after this, even though he was innocent of breaking that law, he's not likely to ever drive with booze in his system again. The legality of what they did is an entirely different kettle of fish.
So is this like a silver lining?

"Sure, he didn't break the law and is innocent, but this guarantees he'll be innocent next time too. All it took was a tube forced into his penis".

I suppose if you ever get a speeding ticket for going 50 in a 50 zone you'll say "well that sucks, but I'm definitely going to follow the rules from now on".
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Is this another case of the guy behaving like an ass? What happened that the police charged him with obstruction of justice.
I'm willing to bet he wasn't all that down with the whole forced catheterization part of the equation, which sounds like a fairly reasonable response to me.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:37 PM   #20
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