Quality

[alltherage]

First, to preface this, I love CP and the mods do a really great, and I'm betting very thankless job. Having said that, over this off season there has been an influx of new posters flaming and posting less than quality posts that is frustrating many members who have been here for years. I consider myself a newer member still, and I've been signed up for over 3 years and have lurked for about 2 years before that.

My question is, with the influx of new members, has CP grown enough to necessitate a few more moderators? This isn't me trying to apply or anything, there are more qualified guys, I'm sure. And this is in no way trying to imply that you guys don't do a fantastic job- you do. I appreciate it 100% and without CP, the Internet is dead to me. It just feels maybe like CP is lacking an accountability lately.

Maybe even bring the skill back? I know it was the bain of some people's existence, but people need to realize that outright flaming and elitism is just as bad as newbies not understanding the culture and what's post worthy here.

Maybe even go a little nazi on some people who flame, like throw blatant flamers in the sin bin and let them cool off for a few days. Many CP vets (again, i don't consider myself one, although I am as guilty as any) seem to be slipping too these days, and they know the rules as well as anyone. It's a slippery slope, and once someone gets flamed, it's only natural to want to forge a rebuttal or defend themselves. Problem is, it's almost never constructive, and usually detracts from discussion in a big way.

Is there a counter to the "thank" feature, like an "un-thank" or some such thing? Or a "fail" or "disagree" feature?

Again, I want to reiterate, I love this place, I love the mod team, and hell, I love a ton of the people on here. I wouldn't post something like this if I didn't, and if I wasn't genuinely concerned that we might be on the verge of losing something really good here. It's not like we are on the dawn of some CP apocalypse or anything, but I feel that we could nip it in the bud so to speak if we act now.

Also, if this is inappropriate please delete this thread, it's definitely not my intention.

[habernac]

the easiest way to deal with sub par threads or posters? Ignore the thread. Yeah, it's not always easy...

[Clever_Iggy]

IMO, the unthank button would just fuel more negativity.

As for the influx of more fly-by posters, perhaps its a product of the off season and a lack of things to discuss? Perhaps increase the post requirements before someone can start a new thread? New thread requests that are legit can go through a Mod (before poster reaches that threshold)?

I think it also comes down to more ignoring. Not necessarily the ignore feature but rather ignoring obvious trolls/fly-by posters and thereby not encouraging them. As guilty as the trolls are for trying to stir up a reaction, established posters (however you want to classify them - veteran, new, middle, whatever) should have enough restraint not to respond. Also, it's easier for the existing Mod team to moderate these new troll posts by simply reporting them.

Just my opinion though.

[JiriHrdina]

We've seen time and time again over the years that new posters take some time to get accustomed to the board but once they do they can turn into quality posters.

What degenerates the overall quality of the board is not poor threads - if people just stopped replying they would quickly vanish - it's how the experienced posters react to poor threads.

Let the bad threads drop and keep the good discussion alive - that in and of itself would do wonders.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

I think it also comes down to more ignoring. Not necessarily the ignore feature but rather ignoring obvious trolls/fly-by posters and thereby not encouraging them. As guilty as the trolls are for trying to stir up a reaction, established posters (however you want to classify them - veteran, new, middle, whatever) should have enough restraint not to respond. Also, it's easier for the existing Mod team to moderate these new troll posts by simply reporting them.

Bingo. The problem with a lot of what most people call garbage posts and threads end up with 20 responses right off the bat- people trying to post how much they don't like that thread. Whereas if people just rated the thread 1 star and left it alone it would quickly drop off to the 2nd page and never be seen again.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Bingo. The problem with a lot of what most people call garbage posts and threads end up with 20 responses right off the bat- people trying to post how much they don't like that thread. Whereas if people just rated the thread 1 star and left it alone it would quickly drop off to the 2nd page and never be seen again.

People want the last word, especially if they don't agree with what the previous last word is.

"geez, if I don't reply they will think I gave up and they win!!!"

(yes, the 3 exclamation points were required. Be glad it wasn't all caps, different font, size and colour)

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

People want the last word, especially if they don't agree with what the previous last word is.

"geez, if I don't reply they will think I gave up and they win!!!"

Not always.

[Yeah_Baby]

Let me say I've let myself get baited and I'll refrain from responding in the future.


ps, I love you too ATR

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

People want the last word, especially if they don't agree with what the previous last word is.

"geez, if I don't reply they will think I gave up and they win!!!"

(yes, the 3 exclamation points were required. Be glad it wasn't all caps, different font, size and colour)

Exactly, so many times on CP you'll see "Look, I don't want to take this any further".......or, "I'm willing to be the bigger man and stop this bickering, but".........*insert poster continuing the bickering ie: trying to get the last word in*


It's always funny when you see posters take what they think will be the last shot at a poster, and they think that by prefacing the post with "This will be the last post about this, as we're de-railing the thread" or something to that effect, that they're removing the blame from themselves, and that the onus is now on the other poster to not respond to their latest reply.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Let me say I've let myself get baited and I'll refrain from responding in the future.


ps, I love you too ATR

Really, you?

I am guilty of jumping on the new (dumb) posters as well just because it can get to be too much, especially when Bouwmeester came here.

As a fairly new member myself I wish there was some type of waiting period to post and start new threads. I bet if there were I would have got into a lot less trouble back when I first joined.

Something where a new member can post in existing threads in the OT/Other Sports forum for 30 days and when that time is up they can start threads in the OT/Other Sports and post in the FOI forum. Then after 60 days you can start threads in the FOI forum.

I don't think post count should matter because if it did people would be posting just to get their count up so they could start their annoying threads. I think this would also stop Canuck/Oiler fans from jumping on just to troll in the FOI fourm of things if they have to wait 30 days to troll.

Personally I don't think I could be a mod because my patients is too short for obvious trolls however everyone on the team here at CP does a fantastic job at cleaning up most of the garbage. We all know you guys have lives outside of this place (unlike myself) so keep up the hard work.

If there is anything I can do to help let me know I am always here!

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by HOOT

As a fairly new member myself

Which is funny, because you've been here a lot longer than I have. And that seems to be the difference between 'back in the day' and 2009 calender year. I know when I joined I had lurked for a while, learned most of the memes and still waiting till I was more in the swing of things to start religiously posting.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Which is funny, because you've been here a lot longer than I have. And that seems to be the difference between 'back in the day' and 2009 calender year. I know when I joined I had lurked for a while, learned most of the memes and still waiting till I was more in the swing of things to start religiously posting.

Something I should have done. I bet I am on a lot of ignore lists from my first few months here.

But this is the first message board I ever joined. I didn't even know communities like this existed until I ran into CP searching for Phaneuf photos on Google from his WHL days.

A big reason for the rise in new members might have a lot to do with the shutdown of the CF.com forums a little while back with no where for their members to go except here.

[Yeah_Baby]

I've been to other boards but there is something that is just special about CP. And I wouldn't be suprised if I was on an ignore list or two.

[alltherage]

I wish I was on some people's ignore lists.

[Madman]

When is ATR going to reply in this thread?

[Dion]

I can't see what ATR is posting.

[FanIn80]

ATR?

Edit: I have to type more stuff so I can post something in caps.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

ATR?

ATR = alltherage

You probably can't see his posts anymore.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Gozer

ATR = alltherage

You probably can't see his posts anymore.

I was just continuing the sarcasm...

[Azure]

Well, I've been here since 2003, or was it 2002? Early 2002. With a different username, and whatnot. Didn't post as much, blah, blah, blah.

But, I don't think its fair to hold it against 'new' members that they're 'new.'

I mean, Brad Marsh hasn't been here that long, and he is one of the best posters in the FOI section. I could find numerous other posters like that too.

I think we should just let bad thread fall off the front page, and encourage better posting.

Things will work themselves out.