Islamic violence is a worldwide occurence. Will it ever stop?

[Rerun]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...?section=world

Police in Nigeria have freed more than 180 women and children from a house in the north of the country where they had been held by a radical Islamic sect.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...-9eeQD99O7FR01

Two allied Islamist insurgent groups — al-Shabab and the Islamic Party — launched an offensive after the return of an exiled insurgent leader in April that has killed hundreds of Somalis and forced tens of thousands to flee their homes. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said in a report to the council last week that the violence has worsened the humanitarian crisis in the country, with at least 3.2 million people — 43 percent of Somalia's population — requiring food and other aid.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...41398720090729

The July 17 attacks on the JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton killed nine and wounded 53, including Indonesians and foreigners. Police have yet to identify the perpetrators but suspect that Malaysian-born Top, who heads a splinter group of radical Islamic group Jemaah Islamiah, may have helped plan the attacks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/featu...is/idUSLQ19074

BAGHDAD, July 26 (Reuters) - A suicide bomber killed at least four people and wounded nine others just outside a funeral tent in western Iraq, police said on Sunday.

The bomber detonated an explosive vest outside the funeral near Falluja, 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad, for a police officer who was killed in another bomb attack.

Just a day earlier, a car bomb outside a political party's offices in Falluja, in the mainly Sunni Muslim Anbar province, killed five people and wounded 21 others.

http://www.reuters.com/article/featu...s/idUSLR230840

OSH, Kyrgyzstan, July 29 (Reuters) - Sipping tea in a dim, smoke-filled teahouse in the Kyrgyz city of Osh, Rakhmatillo Ibragimov says the goal of his life is to restore Islamic rule in former Soviet Central Asia.

"They call us terrorists. That's because they are afraid of us," he says with a bashful smile that contrasts with the sharpness of his words. "The more they oppress us the stronger we become. We don't want bloodshed. We want justice."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...TFFMgD99NHA4G0

SALE, Morocco — A man accused of leading a terrorist network was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison for plotting terror attacks in Morocco, holdups in Europe, large-scale money laundering projects and arms trafficking.
Abdelkader Belliraj, a 51-year-old dual Moroccan-Belgian national, had faced the death penalty. He maintained his innocence throughout the proceedings.
He was charged along with 34 co-defendants.
In addition to the charges he was tried on, Interior Ministry officials said publicly after his arrest they suspect Belliraj of having taken part in several murders in Belgium, a robbery in Luxembourg, combat training in Iran or Lebanon and meeting with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan a few days before the Sept. 11 attacks.
Belliraj's co-defendants included opposition Islamist politicians, a university professor, a police superintendent, and a Moroccan journalist working for Al-Manar, the television channel run by Lebanon's hardline Hezbollah group. The 34 co-defendants were handed sentences ranging from 30 years in prison to one-year suspended sentences.

http://www.reuters.com/article/lates.../idUSMAN406386

MANILA, July 25 (Reuters) - The Philippines' largest Muslim rebel group ordered its armed units to halt attacks on military targets on Saturday, a top guerrilla leader said, paving the way for the revival of peace talks stalled since August 2008.

"Effective today, we are suspending our military actions in all areas where our armed units are operating," Mohaqher Iqbal, head of the rebels' peace panel, told Reuters by telephone from a guerrilla base on the southern island of Mindanao.

On Thursday, the government ordered a unilateral truce in the south of the mainly Roman Catholic country to convince the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) to return to negotiations to end 40 years of conflict that has killed 120,000 people.

[Winsor_Pilates]

In a one word answer: No
Islamic extremism (like any religious extremism) has gone on since the beginning of Islamic faith and is fundamental to religion in general.
9-11 made is mainstream, but it's nothing new.
Religious violence can only stop existing if religion stops existing.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Can't really say its solely the religion that is sparking it. Lots of political, social and economic reasons why these people are becoming extremists.

If they didn't have Islam, they'd probably have another ideology such as communism or something and be having violent revolutions all the time.

Poverty, power imbalances, intolerance between different ethnic groups, the after effects of European imperialism and colonialism and the subsequent withdrawls, etc are probably more the root cause of a lot of these issues. Religion factors in but its not the sole cause as some people mistakenly believe.

Violence is a worldwide occurence.

[Rerun]

FDW, you are correct in most of what you say however I suspect that religion plays a very significant part in this. It seems like most of these groups's sole purpose is to overthrow the current government / regime and impost strict radical Islamic law and governance.... and they don't care how many people they have to kill/murder to do it.

[Rerun]

To be honest, when I get on a plane and see a group (3 or 4) men of obvious middle eastern decent travelling together, I get a little nervous and apprehensive... even though 9-11 happened 8 years ago.
Call me stupid but every day there is a story in the news about some Islamist person or group killing people for the greater glory of Allah so that they can be free of the yoke of western domination.
Does Islam just attract a larger quantity of radical violent nut cases or is it just that we only see this because of media bias in its reporting?

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Rerun

To be honest, when I get on a plane and see a group (3 or 4) men of obvious middle eastern decent travelling together, I get a little nervous and apprehensive... even though 9-11 happened 8 years ago.
Call me stupid but every day there is a story in the news about some Islamist person or group killing people for the greater glory of Allah so that they can be free of the yoke of western domination.
Does Islam just attract a larger quantity of radical violent nut cases or is it just that we only see this because of media bias in its reporting?

You are stupid.

[Pagal4321]

[Azure]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

You are stupid.

No he's not.

People that go on a plane and don't have a slight second thought when they see 4 young Muslim adults.....have either been living in a cave for the past 10 years, or they're mentally ######ed.

We might not be SCARED, nor do we fear them, or think they're bad people, but we sure as hell think about it(9/11) all the time.

Thank the media for that.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

You are stupid.

Thank you for your helpful and constructive contribution to this thread. Wisdom like yours isn't easy to find.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

You are stupid.

Where is my bitchslap button?

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Religious violence can only stop existing if religion stops existing.

meh, people always find a reason

[burn_this_city]

People in the west have been force fed this fear of Islam garbage for the last 10-15 years. 99% of them are good law abiding individuals whos faith really isnt any different than the other Abrahamic religions.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

People in the west have been force fed this fear of Islam garbage for the last 10-15 years. 99% of them are good law abiding individuals whos faith really isnt any different than the other Abrahamic religions.

I don't really want to pull this stuff up, but Pew polls and the like have shown a considerable minority of Muslims, around 30%, to show support for suicide murder tactics.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Azure

No he's not.

People that go on a plane and don't have a slight second thought when they see 4 young Muslim adults.....have either been living in a cave for the past 10 years, or they're mentally ######ed.

We might not be SCARED, nor do we fear them, or think they're bad people, but we sure as hell think about it(9/11) all the time.

Thank the media for that.

Oh come on. Who is living in the cave? You see 4 young Muslim adults and you automatically get a second thought and you blame the media? You decide how you are going to respond to the 'situation'. Not the media.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Locke

Where is my bitchslap button?

So violent. Are you Islamic or non-Islamic?

[habernac]

Extremism in any religion sucks, Islam is just the one with the most publicity in recent years.

[You Need a Thneed]

These extremist terrorists have nothing to do with religion. Religion is just a front for these people who only want power.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Thank you for your helpful and constructive contribution to this thread. Wisdom like yours isn't easy to find.

Sorry that you missed the standard joke. You said. Call me stupid. So I did.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

meh, people always find a reason

Yep, Matt Stone and Trey Parker brought up a good point in a 2-part episode of south park called 'go god go'.

Yet, while it does seem that humanity will always fight about something, I think there comes a point where in order to move beyond the violence caused by distrust and hatred, we need to let go of blind faith in religion where it contradicts with having us respect other people's individual rights and freedoms. We need to work against the strangle hold that radicals take on religion.

I do not personally belong to any religious belief system, but I totally understand that there is a need for it in some people's lives. But the world needs to follow the model in Canada and other countries where we live in a mosaic of peoples that adhere to rules about respecting other people. We respect group and cultural rights, but in this country, individual rights trump all.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by peter12

I don't really want to pull this stuff up, but Pew polls and the like have shown a considerable minority of Muslims, around 30%, to show support for suicide murder tactics.

I'd bet thats 30% in "extremist" countries. The number of supporters in western countries is probably less than 5%. No matter what, there are crazy people in every religion and country around the world.