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Nuje · 06-09-2009, 10:45 PM

Hmm, there hasn't been one of these on here has there? I figure someone would've posted the big one so far.

Kaka - AC Milan to Real Madrid, 68 million Euros!

I'll do my best to post anything significant, or Liverpool related.

GirlySports · 06-09-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuje

Hmm, there hasn't been one of these on here has there? I figure someone would've posted the big one so far.

Kaka - AC Milan to Real Madrid, 68 million Euros!

I'll do my best to post anything significant, or Liverpool related.

If it were an English team buying Kaka for 68 million Euros they'd be lambasted in the papers.

I wonder if David Villa will go to Madrid also...

I don't think Liverpool can buy anyone.. they're in big debt.

Nuje · 06-09-2009, 11:12 PM

All the top teams are in debt though. Rafa said that he has enough money to buy who he wants, so we'll see how that goes. I just hope that the Texas Rangers get sold ASAP, as that would supply some transfer funds.

Thunderball · 06-09-2009, 11:36 PM

Here's a few of the other moves involving major teams or NT Players so far:

Diego to Juventus from Werder Bremen (25m Euro)
Fabio Cannavaro to Juventus from Real Madrid (Free)
Gareth Barry to Manchester City from Aston Villa (12m Pound)
Diego Milito and Thiago Motta to Inter Milan from Genoa (Rumored to be Robert Acquafresca + 16m Euro for both)
Fabio Quagliarella to Napoli from Udinese (16m Euro)
Yoann Gourcuff to Bordeaux from AC Milan (15m Euro)
Hernan Crespo to Genoa from Inter Milan (Free)

Coaching Moves:

Chelsea: Guus Hiddink OUT Carlo Ancelotti IN
AC Milan: Carlo Ancelotti OUT Leonardo IN
Juventus: Claudio Ranieri OUT Ciro Ferrara IN

Thunderball · 06-09-2009, 11:48 PM

Judging from the transfer rumors, I suspect that Confederation Cup players David Villa, David Silva, Andrea Pirlo, Andrea Dossena and possibly even Pato may be on the move very soon too. Their performances at this tournament may be the deciding factor.

Nuje · 06-09-2009, 11:54 PM

Luis Felipe Scolari to coach FC Bunyokdor as well on that list...

Liverpool's for sale list is thought to include: Andrea Dossena, Ryan Babel, Jermaine Pennant (he'd be free I think) and Andriy Voronin.

Sami Hyypia is already gone to Bayer Leverkusen.

Pagal4321 · 06-10-2009, 09:14 AM

Apparently Arsenal have almost completed a transfer for Thomas Vermaelen from Ajax.

JohnnyFlame · 06-10-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

If it were an English team buying Kaka for 68 million Euros they'd be lambasted in the papers.

I wonder if David Villa will go to Madrid also...

I don't think Liverpool can buy anyone.. they're in big debt.

Well with what's his name back in charge at Real Madrid it's going to be another flurry of big names heading that way. Even though Man City has the cash they still don't have the rep so whether they can swing players their way is a question. Bet they will be involved in dang near every rumor though.

HOOT · 06-10-2009, 10:16 AM

I don't get these transfer fees. Is it basically trading a player for money instead of player for player?

Shed some light on this for us non football watchers.

Locke · 06-10-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOT

I don't get these transfer fees. Is it basically trading a player for money instead of player for player?

Shed some light on this for us non football watchers.

Yeah, they're essentially buying assets.

united · 06-10-2009, 11:25 AM

Rumor is Real Madrid are interested in C. Ronaldo. Has anyone else heard anything regarding the rumor? Anything at all?

JohnnyFlame · 06-10-2009, 11:27 AM

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Rumor is Real Madrid are interested in C. Ronaldo. Has anyone else heard anything regarding the rumor? Anything at all?

I'm too lazy to look up the facts but apparently Ronaldo is in for some financial winfall from Real regardless. Something about 25 million he gets--maybe from the last time they were chasing him. I'll go look it up.

Here is a link to an article a few days ago with Real saying they are now turning their attention to Ronaldo. 80 million pounds mentioned--egads. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Kaka-deal.html

The 80 million is because Ronaldo supposedly has a buyout clause that kicks in if he can bring in 75 million in a transfer fee.

Here is an article on the millions they owe Ronaldo for some pre-contact thingy.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...364588,00.html

HOOT · 06-10-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, they're essentially buying assets.

And I once heard that these transfer fees aren't the real number going back to the team. Is that true?

Even on PTI yesterday they were talking about Beckham's $500 million transfer fee workout to a lot less than that.

moon · 06-10-2009, 11:49 AM

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And I once heard that these transfer fees aren't the real number going back to the team. Is that true?

Even on PTI yesterday they were talking about Beckham's $500 million transfer fee workout to a lot less than that.

Beckhams deal was $250 million not $500 million and was not a transfer fee but the salary he was supposedly getting from the MLS.

Wilbon had doubts about teams getting the actual amount of the transfer fee but he was wrong.

Edit: The $250 million deal for Beckham was like NFL deals where a guy signs for 100 million but the deal is not guaranteed and they never end up getting the full amount of their deal.

HOOT · 06-10-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by moon

Beckhams deal was $250 million not $500 million and was not a transfer fee but the salary he was supposedly getting from the MLS.

Wilbon had doubts about teams getting the actual amount of the transfer fee but he was wrong.

Edit: The $250 million deal for Beckham was like NFL deals where a guy signs for 100 million but the deal is not guaranteed and they never end up getting the full amount of their deal.

Okay thanks! I have no idea about this stuff (but trying to learn) but you always see these stupid numbers thrown out and it makes you wonder how one person could be worth that amount of cash, just blows your mind!

Locke · 06-10-2009, 12:23 PM

I'm still stunned that AC let Kaka go, easily one of the best players in the game, hes been playing hurt for so long though because AC just couldnt get it done without him.

I guess they have Ronaldinho to run the midfield too so Kaka may have been surplus to requirements.

Thunderball · 06-10-2009, 01:40 PM

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I'm still stunned that AC let Kaka go, easily one of the best players in the game, hes been playing hurt for so long though because AC just couldnt get it done without him.

I guess they have Ronaldinho to run the midfield too so Kaka may have been surplus to requirements.

I'd say a lot of AC Milan fans are simply shocked at these turn of events. I'd sell half the team and play with reserves before selling Kaka. It gets especially surprising when you hear Pirlo and Pato might be out the door too. Pirlo makes a little sense seeing as he's getting old. Pato boggles the mind. I've heard that AC is in a huge amount of debt, and they have to sell. Apparently, Inter Milan is having some cashflow issues, and you might see Ibrahimovic move to Barca this summer.

I've heard the healthiest teams (and likely to be the most active buyers) going into the offseason are Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Juventus. Apparently the Big English 4 are pretty deep in debt despite huge revenues, but someone more versed on the Premiership can back this up.

Locke · 06-10-2009, 05:13 PM

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I'd say a lot of AC Milan fans are simply shocked at these turn of events. I'd sell half the team and play with reserves before selling Kaka. It gets especially surprising when you hear Pirlo and Pato might be out the door too. Pirlo makes a little sense seeing as he's getting old. Pato boggles the mind. I've heard that AC is in a huge amount of debt, and they have to sell. Apparently, Inter Milan is having some cashflow issues, and you might see Ibrahimovic move to Barca this summer.

I've heard the healthiest teams (and likely to be the most active buyers) going into the offseason are Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Juventus. Apparently the Big English 4 are pretty deep in debt despite huge revenues, but someone more versed on the Premiership can back this up.

I dont know about Arsenal but the debt loads of Man U and Liverpool are fairly common knowledge, to my understanding Chelsea is 'leveraged' quite heavily but that Brama has the cake, so its just his choice of financing.

Real in good financial health surprises me, Barca and Juve doesnt. I am still quite shocked that AC let Kaka go to Real, and I can only hope that if they let Pato go he hits the shores of Liverpool.

Thunderball · 06-10-2009, 05:25 PM

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I dont know about Arsenal but the debt loads of Man U and Liverpool are fairly common knowledge, to my understanding Chelsea is 'leveraged' quite heavily but that Brama has the cake, so its just his choice of financing.

Real in good financial health surprises me, Barca and Juve doesnt. I am still quite shocked that AC let Kaka go to Real, and I can only hope that if they let Pato go he hits the shores of Liverpool.

Actually, Arsenal is probably in good shape, but they aren't typically known for being buyers. As for Chelsea, I've heard Abramovich has been taking pretty big hits, which make him less willing to spend big... of course, with the rumors of their Kaka bid being close to Reals, who knows?

I think with Real, they are so overwhelmingly rich, they can afford to spend like sailors during shore leave, and not be mired in debt they can't afford to manage. Barca is rolling in CL cash, and Juve always has to stay accountable to their shareholders, who paid for their stadium upgrade last year, so they have pretty much zero debt.

sadora · 06-10-2009, 10:03 PM

Here's a couple of significant transfers/rumors that haven't been mentioned.

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A deal for Barcelona to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic has been agreed, and all that is missing for the transfer to become official is for Samuel Eto'o to give his okay to move the other way...

for the full article.....

http://goal.com/en/news/12/spain/200...-spanish-media

Kaka is not the first move from Italian giant AC Milan. Carlo Ancelotti has also been moved and named the new Chelsea Manager.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/Latest...678053,00.html

Another move that hasn't been finalized yet but is a very strong possibility is Carlos Tevez leaving one Manchester team to play for the other Manchester team. Man. City seems to be VERY interested in getting a hold of the young Argentine. Personally, I like the possibilities of the Robinho/Tevez pairing.

Real Madrid are probably going to be the biggest buyers, having acquired Kaka already, they're shoring up their attack by adding David Villa. Though not official yet, the Spanish press is reporting that Valencia and Madrid have agreed to a transfer fee. C. Ronaldo will most likely be on the move to the Spanish capital as well, but Real's interest in Ronaldo has been going on for so long that I'm not going to believe this until it happens.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain...d-villa-report