01-18-2015, 01:07 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Israel lobbying countries to cut funding to Int'l Criminal Court
Wow, the audacity to publicly declare this.
"Israel is lobbying member-states of the International Criminal Court to cut funding for the tribunal in response to its launch of an inquiry into possible war crimes in the Palestinian territories, the country's foreign minister said on Sunday....
..."We will demand of our friends in Canada, in Australia and in Germany simply to stop funding it,""
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0KR06720150118
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01-18-2015, 01:31 PM
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Interesting, but not surprising
Last edited by btimbit; 01-18-2015 at 01:55 PM.
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01-18-2015, 01:47 PM
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The US basically #### on the ICC so what would make Israel think it couldn't.
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01-18-2015, 02:00 PM
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Remind me again what the ICC did over the past few years as an 'elected government' launched rockets at Israeli civilians? Nothing?
I am going to side with Israeli on how absurd some of these international bodies continue to ignore blatant crimes.
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01-18-2015, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Remind me again what the ICC did over the past few years as an 'elected government' launched rockets at Israeli civilians? Nothing?
I am going to side with Israeli on how absurd some of these international bodies continue to ignore blatant crimes.
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Wow, what a shock.
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01-18-2015, 02:27 PM
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Well given where Canada's foreign policy is formulated these days, I wonder why Israel even needs to make a demand.
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01-18-2015, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Remind me again what the ICC did over the past few years as an 'elected government' launched rockets at Israeli civilians? Nothing?
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It can't: Israel is not a state party to the ICC, and only state parties can refer cases to it unless Israel were to approach the ICC and submit to its jurisdiction in a certain case.
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01-18-2015, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Wow, what a shock.
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No shock that you all sit back and ignore terrorist acts and wait for Israel to defend itself to complain.
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01-18-2015, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
No shock that you all sit back and ignore terrorist acts and wait for Israel to defend itself to complain.
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That is such a lame defense. Israel engages in as much terrorism as the radical Palestinians. The displacement in the settlements is as much terrorism as some ####### strapping on an explosive vest and walking into a crowded market. One is just extremist in nature while the other is institutionalized. Both have negative psychological consequences on the populations they affect.
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01-18-2015, 03:52 PM
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Before this becomes an Israeli Palestinian #### fest again does the ICC produce reasonable results or has in become like the UN human rights commission and filled with nations you wouldn't want evaluating human rights?
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01-18-2015, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uzbekistan
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Please dont start arguing about Isreal-Palestine. Please stop. Or Isreal - anyone.
It gets so annoying.
Please, don't.
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01-18-2015, 04:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Originally Posted by Johnny199r
Please dont start arguing about Isreal-Palestine. Please stop. Or Isreal - anyone.
It gets so annoying.
Please, don't.
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Why not? It is an emotional topic for many, and this thread is very closely related too it.
Click another thread. Don't click one with this title if you don't want to read about 'Israel - anyone'
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01-18-2015, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kavvy
Why not? It is an emotional topic for many, and this thread is very closely related too it.
Click another thread. Don't click one with this title if you don't want to read about 'Israel - anyone'
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Because this thread should focus on the reasonableness of the request and not the bickering
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01-18-2015, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kavvy
Why not? It is an emotional topic for many, and this thread is very closely related too it.
Click another thread. Don't click one with this title if you don't want to read about 'Israel - anyone'
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Because nothing anyone says will change anyone else's mind and it's an utterly useless endeavour.
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01-19-2015, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny199r
Because nothing anyone says will change anyone else's mind and it's an utterly useless endeavour.
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That is a statement from someone with a closed mind. If a well thought out argument that shows both perspectives in a rational manner is presented, and supported with empirical evidence, and clearly challenges that which you think you know, you are a fool for not changing your mind. Just because you believe the world is flat does not mean the world is flat.
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01-19-2015, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by New Era
That is a statement from someone with a closed mind. If a well thought out argument that shows both perspectives in a rational manner is presented, and supported with empirical evidence, and clearly challenges that which you think you know, you are a fool for not changing your mind. Just because you believe the world is flat does not mean the world is flat.
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Many people died believing the world was flat even when it was proved to be round.
Rationality only works if either party is willing to work within the reasonable or rational.
Fighting over a "Holy Land" in itself is not rational. How can you expect it to prevail in this issue? I agree that people have to be open to change in order for change to happen. But the people who CAN change this situation are not us, and so to hope for reason to finds it's way into this is nice, but to EXPECT it to depends on how you feel about each party involved at the present time.
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01-19-2015, 10:06 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Johnny199r
Because nothing anyone says will change anyone else's mind and it's an utterly useless endeavour.
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Not true, in the past year I've gone from being pro-Isreal to anti-Isreal.
Isreal is a nexus point of international power structures that affect the entire planet. Discussing it should never be off the table.
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01-19-2015, 10:38 AM
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I never see it changing as long as the Temple Mount/Dome of the Rock continue to be important to their respective religions.
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01-19-2015, 10:50 AM
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internationalcriminalcourtnashie.weebly.com/signatories-of-the-rome-statute.html
From the list of countries on and off the list the ICC appears to be a legitimate international body
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01-19-2015, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GGG
internationalcriminalcourtnashie.weebly.com/signatories-of-the-rome-statute.html
From the list of countries on and off the list the ICC appears to be a legitimate international body
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It's legitimate in the same way the UN is legitimate. It works fine unless Russia or the US disagree with it. When the only remaining superpower is not a part of it, it's kind of a show court.
What it basically means is don't be on a losing side of a war, and don't let yourself be overthrown.
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