Ann Coulter*

[RougeUnderoos]

Did anyone watch that documentary on the 5th Estate tonight about left vs. right media in the States, with lots of attention paid to O'Reilly, Coulter, and some hack Vancouver based ###### named Marsden?

Good stuff. The rightie-tighties have a pretty good track-record of hatchet jobs but it was nice to see the tables turned a little bit. I know I know the CBC has their own bias but whatever. It was fun.

More than once they showed O'Reilly berating and screaming at an anti-war activist who had lost his father in the WTC on 9/11. Really shouting at the guy telling him he has disgraced his father's memory and show some respect to your father and that kind of thing. Looked real good on him. Screaming at a grieving son on television and telling him he has disgraced his father's memory is high quality stuff. What a maggot.

This Marsden woman (can't remember her first name, she works for UPI and is on the radio in Van once a week) has been on the O'Reilly show and seems to be the "voice of the Canadian conservative" on that show. The 5th Estate guy gave her the what-for for a few minutes and then the voice-over said something like "she, like O'Reilly, is under investigation for sexual harassment, and she's pleaded guilty to stalking a former boyfriend and had other charges brought against her by some other guy". So he says to her "do you think it's fair to bring up personal things" (paraphrased very poorly) and she says "yes" and he says "so what do you have to say about Dave and Jim who brought charges against you, is that fair game" and she was pretty stunned by that. "That has nothing to do with this" was basically her answer.

The best was Ann Coulter though. They showed that famous footage with her saying "Canada should be afraid we don't roll over" and other clever things. Eventually this exchange took place:

Annie: "Canada used to be our friend, you sent troops to Viet Nam..."
Host: "No, Canada didn't send troops to Viet Nam"
Annie: "You are wrong"
Host: "No, Canada didn't send troops to Viet Nam"
Annie: "IndoChina"?
Host: "No, Australia sent troops, not Canada"
Annie: "I think you are wrong"
Host: "Nope"
Annie: "I'll have to get back to you on that

VoiceOver: "She never got back to us."

What a stupid pig.

*strong bias involved in this post. I just wanted to share and hope that a few people would read and revel in that disgusting skank's public humiliation just like I am. If you don't share my political views then giver nails.

[Sammie]

The CBC should be disbanded. Billions of dollars of taxpayers' money go to a television network that steals advertising dollars from legitimate private networks.

The 5th Estate program you're referring to was left wing propaganda crap of the highest order. If the CBC made even half an effort to present both sides of the issue it would be nice.

[Wookie]

I watched on wednesday night and laughed at that blonde skank.. as well as the Vancouver loser.. It was funny, I didn't care what it was about, they both seemed stupid, arrogant, and looked like fools

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Nice strong comeback, Sammie. Legitimate private networks. FOX News sure is le-jit-ee-might.

Anyone have any streams, bittorrents or video of that. Desperately want to watch it.

Best quote ever is the "You USED to be our friend". Doesn't that evil skank know that friends don't let friends drive drunk with power?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Sammie@Jan 28 2005, 12:50 AM
The CBC should be disbanded. Billions of dollars of taxpayers' money go to a television network that steals advertising dollars from legitimate private networks.

The 5th Estate program you're referring to was left wing propaganda crap of the highest order. If the CBC made even half an effort to present both sides of the issue it would be nice.

Laugh.

Sammie, where you been?

I haven't checked the CBC budget lately but that "steal billions of dollars" bit seems rather high.

Maybe it is left-wing crap of the highest order. That is open to interpretation.

I plainly stated my personal bias.

O'Reilly plainly berated and insulted a 9/11 victim for not supporting the war and told the guy that he was disrespecting his dead father.

Coulter was just plain wrong and came out looking like the half-witted, hysterical slut that she is.

Don't shoot the messenger.

In other news, I saw somewhere recently (likely in some godless communist periodical, or on American television) that PBS scored 38 million bucks in donations last year from those pledge drives that they have 4 times a year. 38 million = nothing. The rest of their money comes from, gasp!, the government of the United States of America.

Goddamn Commies.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

The CBC is about as objective as Fox News and the rest of the news stations. Really they showed a very slanted view of what conservatives are, at least in the media, and that is not just a one time thing, but really it can be seen time and time again. The way they made the the crying guy a victim of everything, and basically the conservative the villan was almost laughable.

I am sure that if I looked hard enough I could find some people who felt as though BW Bush is equal to Hitler, and there are those in the media who feel the same way, or have very similar viewpoints.

What really irritates me is that the CBC attempts to make themselves come off as an unbiased network, but at the same time produces material such as this. In this particular case their attempt at being unbiased came at the end when whatyamacallhisname told the audience that he worked for NBC for a time.

Plus if I am not mistaken they made accusations regarding Bush's military service with absolutely no evidence to back them up. Once again this has the destinct feeling of biased reporting by the CBC, something that is all to common these days.

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Let's see there Max,

It seems that the program was posing a legitimate question - left vs right media in the states.

So they go out and show the dialogue that actually takes place.

The fact that a racist facist like Ann Coulter gets airtime proves the point that media has moved ever further to the right. Who's the equivalent on the left? Why does the dialogue hit such extremes on one end, but not on the other? If you consider Greenpeace as a way left organization that rebels against the current structure of capitalism - how many appearances do they make on national TV?

Then there's Coulter, who has advodcated "taking care" of Islam (neo-genocide) spouting off her extreme isolationist militaristic views on TV?

The media debate in the states has moved further to the right, and marginalized even some of the more moderate "liberal" issues.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

I am not saying that Clouter is not an idiot because she is, but from the program it appeared as though CBC was trying to state that every single individual who is right wing in nature is a wing-nut such as Clouter. CBC trys to make it seem as though Fox News is really right wing with their bias (which I admit they appear to be) but then they try and appear as the neutral observer which is not the case. They have their own agenda which they are trying to push forwards and that is quite evident. They seem to be insulting Fox for their practices but then at the same time committing the same offense.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Jan 28 2005, 02:53 AM
I am not saying that Clouter is not an idiot because she is, but from the program it appeared as though CBC was trying to state that every single individual who is right wing in nature is a wing-nut such as Clouter. CBC trys to make it seem as though Fox News is really right wing with their bias (which I admit they appear to be) but then they try and appear as the neutral observer which is not the case. They have their own agenda which they are trying to push forwards and that is quite evident. They seem to be insulting Fox for their practices but then at the same time committing the same offense.

CBC definitely has a left-wing bias but I don't get the "they were trying to make every right-winger look like a right-wing nut" idea. They picked on the two most obvious, far-right nuts. Not moderates, not merely conservatives, but two lunatics, and they let their own words prove the point.

They didn't make, or try to make, Bernard Goldberg look like a nut.

[BlackEleven]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Jan 28 2005, 01:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Jan 28 2005, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mean Mr. Mustard@Jan 28 2005, 02:53 AM
I am not saying that Clouter is not an idiot because she is, but from the program it appeared as though CBC was trying to state that every single individual who is right wing in nature is a wing-nut such as Clouter. CBC trys to make it seem as though Fox News is really right wing with their bias (which I admit they appear to be) but then they try and appear as the neutral observer which is not the case. They have their own agenda which they are trying to push forwards and that is quite evident. They seem to be insulting Fox for their practices but then at the same time committing the same offense.

CBC definitely has a left-wing bias but I don't get the "they were trying to make every right-winger look like a right-wing nut" idea. They picked on the two most obvious, far-right nuts. Not moderates, not merely conservatives, but two lunatics, and they let their own words prove the point.

They didn't make, or try to make, Bernard Goldberg look like a nut. [/b][/quote]
Excellent point. Sums up my feelings exactly.

:tup:

[CaptainCrunch]

She was right about Canadian's in Vietnam, but they were sanctioned, there were a number of Canadian's that volunteered to join the Marine's or other services. A few of them were active members of the Canadian Forces that went on voluntary long term leave with the blessings of the CFs.

So she was right there were Canadian's there, but she was also wrong, they were sanctioned by the government.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@Jan 28 2005, 06:25 PM
She was right about Canadian's in Vietnam, but they were sanctioned, there were a number of Canadian's that volunteered to join the Marine's or other services. A few of them were active members of the Canadian Forces that went on voluntary long term leave with the blessings of the CFs.

So she was right there were Canadian's there, but she was also wrong, they were sanctioned by the government.

I'm quite sure she was trying to imply that Canada as a country was involved, not merely Canadians. Its clear if you see that she's saying this within the context of US/Canada state-friendship.

[RougeUnderoos]

Yep. The idea was "you came with us to Viet Nam but you've changed and now you are not with us in Iraq".

She was wrong.

[CaptainCrunch]

I think I'm arguing, from a different box. Ann Coulter (who's cute, but nutty) took a long leap of logic based on what she probably read somewhere.

She's right there were Canadian's in Nam, including some individuals who were decorated.

She was wrong in implying that they were there due to our long standing friendship with the states.

On the plus side, we were able to get some combat vets back into our force structure after they came home.

Interesting article about Canadian Volunteers, and the ICC individuals

Canadian's in Nam

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@Jan 28 2005, 06:48 PM
I think I'm arguing, from a different box. Ann Coulter (who's cute, but nutty) took a long leap of logic based on what she probably read somewhere.

She's right there were Canadian's in Nam, including some individuals who were decorated.

She was wrong in implying that they were there due to our long standing friendship with the states.

On the plus side, we were able to get some combat vets back into our force structure after they came home.

Interesting article about Canadian Volunteers, and the ICC individuals

Canadian's in Nam

Fair enough. But if there was a Nigerian kid who's family moved to the States, and that kid was drafted, I'd suggest that the Nigerians were as well represented as the Canadians.

I'm sure there were many nationalities that were first-generation American who were drafted, and yet I wouldn't call the American force in Nam a 'multi-national' one.

She was attempting to connect Canada and the US diplomatically, not trying to prove a few nationals sympathised with the war in the 60's.

Also, she may have read this somewhere, which is why she put it out there. People who 'know' things like she does should keep their mouths shut, because those things are invariably picked out and destroyed by credible sources.

[Agamemnon]

If she said this,

Annie: "Canada used to be our friend, you sent troops to Viet Nam..."

Then she's dead wrong. 'Canada' sent _no_ troops. Some Canadians went. Very different thing. If some Dutch mercenaries sign up to fight in the Congo, has the 'Netherlands sent troops'? No. Just like Canada didn't in Nam.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally posted by Agamemnon@Jan 28 2005, 08:27 PM
If she said this,

Annie: "Canada used to be our friend, you sent troops to Viet Nam..."

Then she's dead wrong. 'Canada' sent _no_ troops. Some Canadians went. Very different thing. If some Dutch mercenaries sign up to fight in the Congo, has the 'Netherlands sent troops'? No. Just like Canada didn't in Nam.

Isn't that what I said??

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch+Jan 28 2005, 08:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CaptainCrunch @ Jan 28 2005, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Jan 28 2005, 08:27 PM
If she said this,

Annie: "Canada used to be our friend, you sent troops to Viet Nam..."

Then she's dead wrong. 'Canada' sent _no_ troops. Some Canadians went. Very different thing. If some Dutch mercenaries sign up to fight in the Congo, has the 'Netherlands sent troops'? No. Just like Canada didn't in Nam.

Isn't that what I said??[/b][/quote]
Yeah, but you also said this,

She's right there were Canadian's in Nam, including some individuals who were decorated.

That's mostly what I'm addressing, I'd hate for this loophole to somehow legitimize her idiotic and wrong comment.

[FlamesAddiction]

Canada never sent troops as a country. If some people volunteered, then that is completely different.

[CaptainCrunch]

Yes exactly, and yet if we're going to accuse a nutbar like Coulter as being a liar, we might as well try to understand her mis-interpretation of data that she may have picked up somewhere.