CTV broke codes in Dion Interview (CBSC says) - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

FlamesAddiction · 06-09-2009, 09:12 PM

I couldn't find the old thread and figured this might interest some people. It actually happened last week, but I didn't see it posted.

Anyway, the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council concluded that CTV broke ethical codes by airing the false starts for the interview and agreed that the question was "confusing".

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The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council found CTV Atlantic's 6 p.m. newscast was ``discourteous and inconsiderate'' when it ran the awkward false starts after the anchor promised Dion they wouldn't be broadcast.
It also found the question that was put to Dion ``confusing.''

The council said in its decision that the question was confusing to begin with, even to someone whose mother tongue is English.

And it took issue with the fact Murphy had agreed to Dion's request to restart, and then broadcast the entire exchange. It noted that restarts and out-takes are common in television news media.

CTV will run a statement saying it violated the Radio Television News Directors Code of Ethics within the next three days during the supper hour newscast, and then again within the next week.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9011941.html

Stranger · 06-09-2009, 09:17 PM

I'm confused how Dion could even have misunderstood the question.

metallicat · 06-09-2009, 09:18 PM

If that's the only punishment for that, then I hope they find a way to interview and mess with Ignatief as well, and then broadcast it.

CrusaderPi · 06-09-2009, 09:43 PM

CTV broke the bro code? WTF, bro?

BlackArcher101 · 06-09-2009, 09:48 PM

Well, the question is a bit confusing. They ask if he were PM now, what would he HAVE done that Harper did not. Then they say no when Dion asks whether they are asking if he was PM a couple years ago. It's hard to say what you would have done that someone else didn't do going into the future. Don't mix past-tense with present-tense in one sentence. Frankly, I'm confused... because he answered with future-tense (I will do this.... I will do that....)

It's also a limited question, limiting him to only answering what he would have done that harper already didn't do. Instead should have simply asked what he would have done if he were PM or asked what he would have done differently.

I find the whole thing odd, especially with the way CTV even lead the story by saying they first promised they wouldn't air the false starts, then say that they felt they owe it to the public to show it in its entirety. I ask why? Did it make a difference?

lucky1 · 06-09-2009, 09:54 PM

I thought is was almost a public service....after watching it any thoughts I had of voting for him vanished pretty quick.....
If Dion handled himself like that in a TV interview, whats he going to be like when he's actually representing canada?

BlackArcher101 · 06-09-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky1

I thought is was almost a public service....after watching it any thoughts I had of voting for him vanished pretty quick.....
If Dion handled himself like that in a TV interview, whats he going to be like when he's actually representing canada?

Everyone goes through at least a few starts for a tv segment. Even Rogers Millions. And I'm betting Harper has to as well.

lucky1 · 06-09-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Everyone goes through at least a few starts for a tv segment. Even Rogers Millions. And I'm betting Harper has to as well.

I agree with you, but the man was just out there...confused as hell and starting to get pissed off....I thought it was a fairly simple question, and the guy almost has a meltdown on tv...yeah, there's a good statesman all right!!

Bagor · 06-09-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky1

I thought is was almost a public service....after watching it any thoughts I had of voting for him vanished pretty quick.....
If Dion handled himself like that in a TV interview, whats he going to be like when he's actually representing canada?

I agree with BlackArcher in that the whole tenses thing was confusing as hell and it was a badly worded question but at the same time agree that it was a completely incompetent response/reaction.

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Originally Posted by lucky1

I thought it was a fairly simple question

This, I don't agree with. I thought it was confusing as hell.

kirant · 06-09-2009, 11:23 PM

That is an oddly worded question that could have easily confused anybody who has english as their second language. I'm suprised that the CBSC stated anything about people with english as their native tounge though. It seems to be a fairly straight forward question.

lambeburger · 06-10-2009, 12:06 AM

I've always thought that Dion Phaneuf was lousy at interviews.

cal_guy · 06-10-2009, 02:41 AM

As I understand in the French language is more strict on the uses of tenses.

jar_e · 06-10-2009, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cal_guy

As I understand in the French language is more strict on the uses of tenses.

Doesn't really matter when you may be representing a country that the majority of people speak english in.

Devils'Advocate · 06-10-2009, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jar_e

Doesn't really matter when you may be representing a country that the majority of people speak english in.

Whenever in international affairs there are translators to ensure that everyone understands what is going on. I don't think it would be an embarrassment for Canada to request translation to French. It *IS* an official language of this country.

Dion was taking English lessons just as Harper took French lessons. After several years, Harper is now quite fluent. Dion didn't have the same amount of time to learn Canada's other official language. Harpers french was as bad as Dion's english when Harper became leader of a national party.

CTV knew he was having trouble interpreting the question because of the mixed tenses used, agreed to let him re-record the question and then aired the re-starts. I agree that it was unethical. It's pretty clear that when you agree not to air something and then air it, that's unethical. CTV claims "they later thought better of their agreement and that it was in the public interest to air it". You shouldn't make promises you don't plan to keep. And if they hadn't made that promise, Dion may have chosen to take his best shot with his best understanding of the question rather than asking his aide for an interpretation.

starseed · 06-10-2009, 05:49 AM

I was shocked when I saw CTV air that, especially when they said before that they told Dion they would not air it. CTV lost a lot of ethical credibility when they pulled that stunt.

That said, I am glad Dion lost the election. I am a Liberal, but I am not partisan enough to want him to pass his carbon tax plan. Ignatieff may have came up with parts of the green shift, but now that he said it is no longer the agenda of the party, and after reading a few of his books, I am actually excited about this guy.

Resolute 14 · 06-10-2009, 07:55 AM

It isn't CTV's fault that Dion can't understand a basic question.

ken0042 · 06-10-2009, 07:58 AM

For the people saying they also agree that the question was confusing, have you seen the actual tape of the false starts? Because I saw it back when it was still new, and it wasn't confusing to me at all. But reading the text of it; I did have to read it twice.

How many times on the main board has the question been asked "If you were coach of the Calgary Flames, what would you have done differently?"

It's a simple question, and the fact that he didn't understand it just shows how poor his grasp on English is. I have watched French media showing how poor Harper's French is; and there were French attack ads on Harper showing him stammering in French.

At least Chretien usually understood; no matter how bad his accent was. And if he didn't undertand, he would answer his own question.

nieuwy-89 · 06-10-2009, 08:17 AM

How can airing that be in the public interest? Dion is done, he is a non-issue. This may have been newsworthy 2 years ago when he was trying to be the Prime Minister of Canada.

I'm a life long conservative and can't stand Stephan Dion. But that was wrong of CTV to air.

Bagor · 06-10-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ken0042

How many times on the main board has the question been asked "If you were coach of the Calgary Flames, what would you have done differently?"

It would be more a case of: "If you were the coach of the Flames now what would you have done that Keenan didn't do?"

It just doesn't make sense to me. Would I start discussing how I'd play Bourque 'now' or would I have to take into consideration that I was coaching a team with an injured Bourque?

HOZ · 06-10-2009, 08:21 AM

Didn't Iggy bury him somwhere near Harvard?