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Old 05-28-2009, 01:39 PM   #1
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I have been here in Winnipeg for the last week in the downtown area and I would say about 75% of the people J-walk. And I am not just talking about side streets. It is on major roads like Main and Portage.

Why can people not just follow the rules?
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I wouldn't stop walking in Winnipeg either.
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I dont know about Winnipeg, but I've found that Western Canada is peculiar in that pedestrians really follow the rules perfectly. I see people waiting for the stupid walking man light at 4:00am with no one around.

In Europe and other major cities if theres no traffic they go, if theres traffic they wait. I dont see the problem with that. In some places its perfectly acceptable to make your way across a street full of heavy traffic frogger style, one lane at a time.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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I dont know about Winnipeg, but I've found that Western Canada is peculiar in that pedestrians really follow the rules perfectly. I see people waiting for the stupid walking man light at 4:00am with no one around.

In Europe and other major cities if theres no traffic they go, if theres traffic they wait. I dont see the problem with that. In some places its perfectly acceptable to make your way across a street full of heavy traffic frogger style, one lane at a time.
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What is wrong with going when its free and clear to go?

You should go to Asia and see how it works there. You basically have to walk into traffic and make the cars stop for you. Its awesome!
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:44 PM   #5
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Yeah, I've noticed people in the East also jay walk a lot more than the folks out West.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:45 PM   #6
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I love the fact that I can jay walk in front of a NY police officer, and he doesn't give a crap. There is an inherent risk you take with jay walking, but i feel like its a totally natural instinct to do so.
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What is wrong with going when its free and clear to go?

You should go to Asia and see how it works there. You basically have to walk into traffic and make the cars stop for you. Its awesome!
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What is wrong with going when its free and clear to go?

You should go to Asia and see how it works there. You basically have to walk into traffic and make the cars stop for you. Its awesome!
I do it all the time now, if theres no traffic, just go. Thats how it works pretty much everywhere in the world that I've been outside of Alberta and BC.

If I can go, I go and leave everyone else standing on the curb like a bunch of doofuses.

Besides, when was the last time a cop issued a freaking Jaywalking ticket?
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Moving here from Winnipeg, I couldn't believe that people her don't J-walk.

Part of the reason is they don't ticket people in Winnipeg, because J-walkers are automatically at fault if there is a crash. The system works great- I can J-walk without forcing a car to slow down. Everybody wins.

Let me guess- you were driving down Portage when somebody started to cross and looked like they were going to hit the side of your car. You slowed down, the guy couldn't cross, and now you are wonderring why you got yelled at when you think you did nothing wrong.
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I dunno.. I saw a guy jaywalking across Barlow Tr. N this week, just before the 16th ave crossover. Also at pretty much the closest the 4 lanes are together.
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Moving here from Winnipeg, I couldn't believe that people her don't J-walk.

Part of the reason is they don't ticket people in Winnipeg, because J-walkers are automatically at fault if there is a crash. The system works great- I can J-walk without forcing a car to slow down. Everybody wins.

Let me guess- you were driving down Portage when somebody started to cross and looked like they were going to hit the side of your car. You slowed down, the guy couldn't cross, and now you are wonderring why you got yelled at when you think you did nothing wrong.
I think jaywalkers are also at fault in Alberta. They certainly don't have the right of way.

The real reason Peggers j-walk is because they hate living there, and want to be killed.
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Well in Hong Kong you have to jay walk or you would have gridlock on every corner. Just too many people.
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Moving here from Winnipeg, I couldn't believe that people her don't J-walk.

Part of the reason is they don't ticket people in Winnipeg, because J-walkers are automatically at fault if there is a crash. The system works great- I can J-walk without forcing a car to slow down. Everybody wins.

Let me guess- you were driving down Portage when somebody started to cross and looked like they were going to hit the side of your car. You slowed down, the guy couldn't cross, and now you are wonderring why you got yelled at when you think you did nothing wrong.
No, I have been walking while I have been here but I am one of those people that try and follow the rules. I am not saying I have never J-walked or have always followed every rule. In fact I have no problem with people J-walking on slow side streets and late at night when there is no traffic, but these people just walk every where no matter if it is rush hour or not.
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I think jaywalkers are also at fault in Alberta. They certainly don't have the right of way.

The real reason Peggers j-walk is because they hate living there, and want to be killed.
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Funny random story about Jwalking. During the 06 World Cup my cousin and I were down on 17th running around like drunken idiots in the rain. THere were a fair number of people celebrating as well including cars with flags out the window and such.

Sure enough after we run across 17th high fiveing our fellow azzurri supporters a cop pulls over.

I lean in the passenger window and begin begging the cop not to give us Jwalking tickets. He proceeds to tell me not to worry and that it is a great day for our people. I look at his badge and sure enough his name is like Fellicietti or something like that. He proceeds to give me and my cousin both a fist bump and tell us he's supposed to be across the city doing traffic tickets or something but that he just had to check out the celebration down on 17th.

That made me have faith in cops again...for about 20 minutes.
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I think jaywalkers are also at fault in Alberta. They certainly don't have the right of way.
There is a bit more to it for the rules. What we consider a legal crossing here is j-walking in Winnipeg.

In Manitoba a pedestrian must signal his intention to cross, and wait for traffic to see him before proceeding. So if I were to be walking down the sidewalk, turn and cross in a marked crosswalk with lights; but fail to press the button.... in Winnipeg that would go as my fault. In Calgary it's the vehicle's fault.

I just find it gives pedestrians a healthier respect for cars.
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There is a bit more to it for the rules. What we consider a legal crossing here is j-walking in Winnipeg.

In Manitoba a pedestrian must signal his intention to cross, and wait for traffic to see him before proceeding. So if I were to be walking down the sidewalk, turn and cross in a marked crosswalk with lights; but fail to press the button.... in Winnipeg that would go as my fault. In Calgary it's the vehicle's fault.

I just find it gives pedestrians a healthier respect for cars.
You know what else gives pedestrians a healthy respect for cars? Its called a bumper and every car comes with one, standard, no extra charge!!
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I think the better question is why don't people in Calgary jay-walk? No point in just standing there at the corner with no cars in sight...
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Let me guess- you were driving down Portage when somebody started to cross and looked like they were going to hit the side of your car. You slowed down, the guy couldn't cross, and now you are wonderring why you got yelled at when you think you did nothing wrong.
That happened to me the first time I drove in Toronto. The dude gave me an earful, and I thought wtf, I was just being courteous and letting him cross before I go! Then i realized people are a lot more aware of their surroundings there and they anticipate the car driving by before crossing. After that, I didn't yield to anyone and it was great.

The only crappy thing was, I was so used to it by the time I left Toronto, I almost ran over some dude in Calgary shortly after getting back.
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