04-22-2009, 05:03 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Renfrew
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Intense plane landing, youll watch it twice.
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04-22-2009, 05:27 PM
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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Sooner or later, someone is going to get over the admitted awesomeness of the video and ask him why he didn't take the ample opportunities he seemed to have for a water landing instead of choosing the chance of killing other people on an occupied freeway.
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04-22-2009, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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I stumbled on it yesterday, and yes i did watch it twice.
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04-22-2009, 05:48 PM
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I only watched 20 seconds worth.
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04-22-2009, 05:49 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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one of the first things they teach you in flight school is stay away from water. You may safely land the plane but the chances of getting out are very slim.
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04-22-2009, 05:53 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowperson
Sooner or later, someone is going to get over the admitted awesomeness of the video and ask him why he didn't take the ample opportunities he seemed to have for a water landing instead of choosing the chance of killing other people on an occupied freeway.
Cowperson
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I'd be taking a field or a road long before deciding to go in the water (fixed gear = flipped upside down on impact). Besides an ultralight (or any light single engine plane) isn't going to do any damage against the average car, if anything the pilot and passenger would be on the receiving end of the worst of it!
The question is what were they doing at that low altitude before the engine failed? Had they just taken off? Or were they flying around low for the fun of it?
The pilot handled the situation extremely well in the circumstances that he had to deal with.
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04-23-2009, 01:21 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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in the news story, if you read, he was deciding between water and highway, and saw that there were no cars on that side of the road, so he took the road instead of water landing
edit - also if you read the story, it was shortly after takeoff
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04-23-2009, 01:45 PM
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Pretty impressive...I love how he has the courtesy to even taxi it into a parking lot.
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04-23-2009, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowperson
Sooner or later, someone is going to get over the admitted awesomeness of the video and ask him why he didn't take the ample opportunities he seemed to have for a water landing instead of choosing the chance of killing other people on an occupied freeway.
Cowperson
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When I was in flight school, one of the habits we were taught was to constantly be thinking, "If I had a sudden loss of power, where could I land RIGHT NOW?" Making an emergency water landing was always considered an absolute last resort -- there's a reason why the flight that landed in the Hudson a few months ago was the first successful ditching in decades. The preferred option is an open field, but highways and other roads are also safer choices than lakes and rivers.
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04-23-2009, 02:49 PM
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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Another consideration is that to land in the water he would have had to bank. At the time he DID bank, he had engine power for a few seconds. If he banks with no engine power they are dead. As soon as you turn without power you lose all lift and the plane is a rock.
Played that perfectly.
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04-23-2009, 02:50 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Watch the wing, watch the wing!
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04-23-2009, 02:55 PM
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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yeah, since they landed safe, it made the end comical for me when they nonchalantly pull into a parking lot. tremendously lucky there were no cars on that side at all. for a multilane road like that, you would think it would be pretty unlikely that it would be empty like that. i only watched the video once. while it was cool, it didn't draw me in that much.
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04-23-2009, 02:59 PM
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"Sorry about that Gil"
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04-23-2009, 02:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Watch the wing, watch the wing!
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That's beauty, right after the perfect emergency landing he reverts to teaching like his 14 year old daughter just got her license and is driving for the first time.
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04-23-2009, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by IronDave
That's beauty, right after the perfect emergency landing he reverts to teaching like his 14 year old daughter just got her license and is driving for the first time.
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Yup, I loved that part. It shows how quickly our priorities can change. Us humans are a crazy bunch. Seconds earlier they had just hoped to survive, now it's "watch the wing!"
Great video, watched it twice.
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04-23-2009, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kermitology
Another consideration is that to land in the water he would have had to bank. At the time he DID bank, he had engine power for a few seconds. If he banks with no engine power they are dead. As soon as you turn without power you lose all lift and the plane is a rock.
Played that perfectly.
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That's not actually correct.
As long as you properly coordinate the rudder and ailerons, wings still generate lift perfectly fine when they're banked. The only difference is that the lift vector is diagonal to the ground instead of being straight up and down.
Take a look at this image. It's a cockpit shot of an unpowered glider in a banked attitude. You can see from the vertical speed indicator (the instrument in the direct centre of the panel) that he's slowly losing altitude, but he's not dropping like a rock.
http://cloudburst.files.wordpress.co...8/gliding6.jpg
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04-23-2009, 03:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IronDave
That's beauty, right after the perfect emergency landing he reverts to teaching like his 14 year old daughter just got her license and is driving for the first time.
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The guy on the right is a videographer, the guy on the left is the pilot, he is an instructor, but he wasn't teaching anyone at the time. He was flying.
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04-23-2009, 03:33 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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so its real?
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04-23-2009, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Fake, landing real, but not the fact it was on a busy highway. Druh Farrell or her conterpart in that city must have closed down half of that road as well.
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04-23-2009, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowperson
Sooner or later, someone is going to get over the admitted awesomeness of the video and ask him why he didn't take the ample opportunities he seemed to have for a water landing instead of choosing the chance of killing other people on an occupied freeway.
Cowperson
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Because it looked like there were about 5 cars moving in the whole town at the time and judgeing from the cockpit that plane looks to be a small homebuilt that likely would have fell apart if it tried a deadstick water landing. And unless your familar with a field it's mostly a no-joy situation aswell.
He did the right thing to save him and his passenger.
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