How does Joe Ceci still have a job?

[Boblobla]

Or a better question is that how is someone so stupid still alive? Natural selection should have kicked in by now and he should have been hit by a bus or something crossing the street...

Alderman calls for ban on bottled water


http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

A Calgary alderman wants the city to join a national movement and ban bottled water.
Joe Ceci plans to put a motion before council later this week asking that bottle water not be allowed at all city-owned facilities.
Ceci says Calgary's water quality makes the move a no brainer. "In many cases, municipalities have to provide [bottled water] to their staff and citizens because they don't have good quality municipal tap water. We have good tap water here," says Ceci.
The move would also make financial sense.
Last year, the city spent thousands of dollars buying 3,400 cases of bottle water for the municipal building alone.
CTV asked Calgarians about the idea of the ban and it is clearly a divisive issue.
Ceci says if other aldermen agree to the ban it would have to be phased in because of contract obligations.
In 2007, Canadians consumed about 2.1-billion litres of bottled water.

Okay Joe, let me get this straight. You want to ban bottled water because the city had to buy *gasp* 3400 hundred bottles of water? I can't really tell from the article if he just wants the city to stop buying bottled water or if he wants to just exterminate all water bottles.

All this to save the city a few grand in expenses. I know how Joe Ceci could personally save the taxpayers $100k with an added bonus of us not having to hear from him again.

CTV even went the extra mile and got some of of Calgaries intellectual community to weigh in...

"Bottled water is a big rip off, useless and expensive not to mention all the bottles that end up in the landfill. But let's get our priorities in order. Why would you outlaw bottled water yet keep bottled soda...get rid of it all," says Ruth Hartley.

"Banning bottled water from city facilities is a waste of time as the problem is not with the bottled water but in the fact that people using this water are not recycling the bottles and therefore causing too many bottles to go to the landfill," says Nigel Higenbottam.

[troutman]

How does Rob Anders still have a job?

[Suave]

The banning of water bottles at city facilities is all the rage with politicians across North America. London, Ontario already has a ban in place with many other Ontario municipalities looking to follow. San Francisco and Seattle already have bans in place, while New York is looking at a state wide ban.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Suave

The banning of water bottles at city facilities is all the rage with politicians across North America. London, Ontario already has a ban in place with many other Ontario municipalities looking to follow. San Francisco and Seattle already have bans in place, while New York is looking at a state wide ban.

As in you can't buy them anywhere in the state/city? Or the city won't give them out for free. The latter makes sense to me but the former just seem ######ed.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Suave

The banning of water bottles at city facilities is all the rage with politicians across North America. London, Ontario already has a ban in place with many other Ontario municipalities looking to follow. San Francisco and Seattle already have bans in place, while New York is looking at a state wide ban.

A lot of these people in city council probably have trouble running their own household, let alone running a city. By copying a bunch of left leaning cities, Joe gets to put on his pamphlet next election that he actually did something, without actually doing anything that required any creativity, hard work, analytics, or solve a real problem.

[JustAnotherGuy]

The city has it all wrong. They should do what they usually do and figure out how to make more money from it. Like add more of a deposit to the amount and add a levy to the item. Like the province already does for some these we buy.

Perhaps that is the angle they are taking. Lets pretend we are going to ban the water bottles and then change it to adding a levy and then the consumers will be happy they still have the water bottles and they won't notice the levy.

[Wookie]

I find the waste of bottles incredible with those small bottles people buy from costco. Not everyone, but a lot of people I know/see around are on that "I drink a bunch of water bottles a day and it makes me healthy." So they buy case after case of these tiny bottles and waste them. I used to buy them out of laziness and recycled them but have since stopped.

Now what this guy is talking about doesn't seem to be a great idea. Wasting time and looking for attention it seems. Agreed this is the "cool thing to do" by some people n Gov't these days

[Swayze11]

Originally Posted by troutman

How does Rob Anders still have a job?

He wont soon

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Tory+bo...832/story.html

[Locke]

Originally Posted by troutman

How does Rob Anders still have a job?

Because you keep voting for him.

[Shazam]

You get the government officials you deserve.

[Table 5]

Clearly this is just wish to ban it form City of Calgary buildings, not actually the entire city itself. Doing the latter is definitely extreme.

It is sort of ridiculous that people buy water that has to be shipped from Fiji or the Alps, when there are plenty of good sources around locally.

[J pold]

I've always found water bottles to be ridiculous and unnecessary, I have my one good Naglene that I fill up regularly. I don't need a new useless water bottle ever two hours, to me they just a bi-product of an over lazy society. Is it so hard to walk down to a water fountain and fill up the same bottle more than once? Here in Calgary we have the luxury of some of the best water in the world, and yet we still feel it's necessary to buy water from Fiji why?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

He wont soon

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Tory+bo...832/story.html

Good riddance. But I'm not getting my hopes up yet. He could convince Harper to bring in the 'fixers'.

Looks like Ander's mom reads the herald. From the comments section. hahahaha soo funny it has made my day.

Rob Anders is a terrific MP. Anders is the Winston Churchill of our time. A voice shouting out into the darkness. I am proud Rob Anders represents me in Ottawa. His principled stance is a welcomed change from the poll chasing lot that seems to over run Parliament. Donna hyphenated last name can join her Red Tory Liberal friends back in Toronto, or Yemen.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

Or a better question is that how is someone so stupid still alive? Natural selection should have kicked in by now and he should have been hit by a bus or something crossing the street...

Alderman calls for ban on bottled water


http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome



Okay Joe, let me get this straight. You want to ban bottled water because the city had to buy *gasp* 3400 hundred bottles of water? I can't really tell from the article if he just wants the city to stop buying bottled water or if he wants to just exterminate all water bottles.

All this to save the city a few grand in expenses. I know how Joe Ceci could personally save the taxpayers $100k with an added bonus of us not having to hear from him again.

CTV even went the extra mile and got some of of Calgaries intellectual community to weigh in...

Not to nitpick, but the article says 3400 CASES, not bottles, and that's just at the municipal building.
I'd be willing to bet it's an expense that adds up pretty quickly.
Besides, even if it is only to save a few thousand dollars, why are you so up in arms about it.
The guy is using what is genearally sound logic to save some cash, I don't see how people can really be opposed to this.

Facts:
1) Bottled water costs the city money
2) Water bottles are a waste of resources, as they often end up in landfills
3) Calgary has very good quality tap water

Conclusion: Why should the city bother with the expense and waste of providing water in bottles to it's employees when it already provides the same product through the tap?

We're currently going through the process of finding ways to cut costs where I work, and one of the things that's been brougth up with no real opposition is getting rid of the free bottled water.
No one is up in arms about it, and no one is saying it's a waste of time for someone to bring it up.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by J pold

I've always found water bottles to be ridiculous and unnecessary, I have my one good Naglene that I fill up regularly. I don't need a new useless water bottle ever two hours, to me they just a bi-product of an over lazy society. Is it so hard to walk down to a water fountain and fill up the same bottle more than once? Here in Calgary we have the luxury of some of the best water in the world, and yet we still feel it's necessary to buy water from Fiji why?

I do both. I have a 18.9 litre cooled water thing at home. Half the time I will fill up my water bottle on my way out. But sometimes I forget so then I may buy a bottled water when I am out. I will always recycle the bottle.

I drink water because I feel way better when I get the proper amount of water. Especially in Calgary. Especially in the winter.

I just don't like Calgary's drinking water. It smells like smegma sometimes. Yuck.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Conclusion: Why should the city bother with the expense and waste of providing water in bottles to it's employees when it already provides the same product through the tap?

From the article, Ceci wants to ban vending machines that sell bottled water as well. How does that make sense?

Alderman Ceci wants water machines like this one to be banned from city-owned properties

[Russic]

It would appear I'm invulnerable to everything the city of calgary does.

- I don't speed
- I don't run red lights
- I take the bus to the ctrain
- I drink tap water

If this trend continues the next thing they'll tax is not being awesome.

[Suave]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

As in you can't buy them anywhere in the state/city? Or the city won't give them out for free. The latter makes sense to me but the former just seem ######ed.

In most cases its that you will no longer get them for free or be able to purchase them at state/civic facilities. You will be expected to bring your own reusable water bottle and fill up at the fountains.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Suave

In most cases its that you will no longer get them for free or be able to purchase them at state/civic facilities. You will be expected to bring your own reusable water bottle and fill up at the fountains.

I just don't get it. So you can buy a bottle of Coke but not a bottle of water? What is the logic? If I forget my water bottle at home then I have to buy a pop if I don't want to drink from a public fountain? Is it really only bottled water drinkers that don't recycle? I am pretty sure it is all bottled beverage drinkers.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Not to nitpick, but the article says 3400 CASES, not bottles, and that's just at the municipal building.
I'd be willing to bet it's an expense that adds up pretty quickly.
Besides, even if it is only to save a few thousand dollars, why are you so up in arms about it.
The guy is using what is genearally sound logic to save some cash, I don't see how people can really be opposed to this.

Facts:
1) Bottled water costs the city money
2) Water bottles are a waste of resources, as they often end up in landfills
3) Calgary has very good quality tap water

Conclusion: Why should the city bother with the expense and waste of providing water in bottles to it's employees when it already provides the same product through the tap?

We're currently going through the process of finding ways to cut costs where I work, and one of the things that's been brougth up with no real opposition is getting rid of the free bottled water.
No one is up in arms about it, and no one is saying it's a waste of time for someone to bring it up.

Responding to your facts.
1. They are talking about getting rid of the free water. Which in my opinion is fine. Get rid of it. They are also talking about not allowing the sale of any water bottles on city propery. Why?

2. Okay, if you use that arguement then why are we not talking about all beverages that come in a bottle. The pops, and juice drinks etc?

3. I disagree. The water at times is awful. But that is my opinion. Not trying to change yours.