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JiriHrdina · 01-16-2009, 11:07 AM

Brian Boucher and Steve Montador.

48 hours.

Sylvanfan · 01-16-2009, 11:08 AM

For what like the third time this year. Poor guys.

JiriHrdina · 01-18-2009, 07:07 PM

Monty clears. Boucher has been claimed by two clubs - we will figure out who gets him.

JiriHrdina · 01-18-2009, 08:40 PM

Off to Chi-town you go

Enforcer · 01-18-2009, 09:00 PM

How did the Hawks get Boucher here? I put in a claim on him. Shouldn't the Hawks have gone to the bottom of waiver priority after after claiming Mezei?

JiriHrdina · 01-18-2009, 09:07 PM

I'll ask the keeper of the waiver list.

JiriHrdina · 01-18-2009, 10:05 PM

Boucher's plane has been re-routed to Dallas.

cphlblackhawks · 01-18-2009, 10:43 PM

i protest! nah, good claim by dallas

Enforcer · 01-19-2009, 06:56 AM

Finally we have a backup that might be able to win a game!! No offense to Leighton, but he is a 67 this season.

Sylvanfan · 01-19-2009, 08:34 AM

The burn here is that Luongo just went down with injury and now I'm down to Pekka Rinne. With Ryan Smyth off IR the team didn't have cap room to keep two goalies. I didn't want to risk Rinne being lost and thought Bouch might make it....Now I'm totally screwed ha ha. Why the hell Rinne was ever called up in the first place with his rating is beyond me.

Enforcer · 01-19-2009, 10:00 AM

I had decided I was going to claim Boucher next time he was waived after seeing him play well against the Canucks last week. Also my current backup Leighton has 0 wins. He and Boucher can fight it out for next seasons backup spot.

Edmonton made some poor signings in the offseason, gave Calder and Sjostrom long term 1 way deals for 2 million each.

I had tried to trade for Pekka Rinne a couple weeks ago, but couldn't make the salaries work. I'm in a position that I wouldn't have cared if he was on the big club for the rest of the year. With Boucher being stuck in the minors sending the salary difference in cheese between _______ and Rinne wouldn't work because he had no money to bring Boucher up.

Sylvanfan · 01-19-2009, 10:51 AM

Well no team should have 3 goalies on their NHL roster and not have any possible way to afford all their one way contracts to keep a minimum roster. I waived Boucher to get a jump on Smyth coming off IR so I could avoid the watchdog....and now the dog is on my arse again. Than again I think Rob holds the CPHL record for most watchdog fines in his career.

Prototype · 01-19-2009, 10:52 AM

Wow... I'm still lurking guys...

Sylvanfan · 01-19-2009, 10:59 AM

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Wow... I'm still lurking guys...

Take your criticism like a man than.

Prototype · 01-19-2009, 11:11 AM

LOL... I missed you Syl.

When Smyth was to come off IR, my plan was to waive Boucher as well. I had a little bit of breathing room, but not a lot. The only reason Boucher was on the roster to begin with was that I had injuries, and about 4 games in a row, and I made it obvious that I had no confidence in Rinne this season. I wanted to bring up the backup that I knew I could win with, and I had planned on moving him back down later when Smyth came back.

And I didn't want to lose Rinne for nothing, and I didn't quite get an offer than I thought was a good fit for losing him. I think he'll get a good re-rate, and I was trying to work around his contract for the rest of the season. Luongo was going to get a fair share of the workload, that's for damn sure.

And yes, in hindsight, the 1w contract hurt. But in FA, you have to do to get the guys you want. I had the room, but I do regret the 1w.

I would have done exactly what Syl did in this situation.

I know it's not the best situation to take over, so I appologize for that...

simmer2 · 01-19-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Prototype

LOL... I missed you Syl.

When Smyth was to come off IR, my plan was to waive Boucher as well. I had a little bit of breathing room, but not a lot. The only reason Boucher was on the roster to begin with was that I had injuries, and about 4 games in a row, and I made it obvious that I had no confidence in Rinne this season. I wanted to bring up the backup that I knew I could win with, and I had planned on moving him back down later when Smyth came back.

And I didn't want to lose Rinne for nothing, and I didn't quite get an offer than I thought was a good fit for losing him. I think he'll get a good re-rate, and I was trying to work around his contract for the rest of the season. Luongo was going to get a fair share of the workload, that's for damn sure.

And yes, in hindsight, the 1w contract hurt. But in FA, you have to do to get the guys you want. I had the room, but I do regret the 1w.

I would have done exactly what Syl did in this situation.

I know it's not the best situation to take over, so I appologize for that...

In free agency, there is such a small chance that someone is going to come in with the exact same dollar figure on a player that it makes offering a 1-way contract pretty much useless. The only time I could see it making a difference is if you are offering $10mm on a player.

Prototype · 01-19-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by simmer2

In free agency, there is such a small chance that someone is going to come in with the exact same dollar figure on a player that it makes offering a 1-way contract pretty much useless. The only time I could see it making a difference is if you are offering $10mm on a player.

That makes sense. I know they were the big thing when we had agents. I thought that the two players I went for were going to be more popular, which I can admit that I was wrong on. They weren't the worst deals in the history of the CPHL, but they did handcuff my roster as I went on.

simmer2 · 01-19-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prototype

That makes sense. I know they were the big thing when we had agents. I thought that the two players I went for were going to be more popular, which I can admit that I was wrong on. They weren't the worst deals in the history of the CPHL, but they did handcuff my roster as I went on.

This was my first year going through free agency and it surprised me which players went for high $$$ Vs. low $$$. Definitely a guessing game. And no, they didn't handcuff the squad...they weren't great contracts but there are worse out there. (Ekman at $4.75mm and a 67 OVR isn't stellar)

Prototype · 01-19-2009, 03:40 PM

They did handcuff the squad... If I had them at 1.0 each, 2way, I probably would have traded Iginla, and I probably wouldn't have called up a cheaper Rinne.

But those were my choices.

Sylvanfan · 01-19-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by simmer2

This was my first year going through free agency and it surprised me which players went for high $$$ Vs. low $$$. Definitely a guessing game. And no, they didn't handcuff the squad...they weren't great contracts but there are worse out there. (Ekman at $4.75mm and a 67 OVR isn't stellar)

That was a contract from the days of Agents. Problem those days was that pretty much all star players were taking home town discounts and bad teams were trying to sign anyone they could. I think Ekman got that contract when he was a 75OV player coming off a year where he had played with Thornton and Cheechoo. With the grid that would have been a 5 million dollar contract! Now he's probably the most overpaid CPHL player. Thats the risk of a 1 way 3 year contract. Frankly, I'm much more handcuffed by Karlis Skrastins contract than Calders. It's grid contracts awarded to players with ratings below 80 that kill teams. Especially to older guys on the decline.

Today's system makes it challenging to keep up a good team. If a team gets neglected or is too inactive they end up in trouble. In the old days the Oilers would have just stayed strong by doing very little. Now I'm going to have to committ one way or another to get back on track. Which is good. If only other GM's would smarten up and put a trade embargo on the Wild and Sharks and let Grant and Ryan fall on their swords too!