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Old 01-11-2009, 10:58 PM   #1
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska, Jan. 11 (UPI) -- An Alaskan lottery organizer says a convicted sex offender has won a $500,000 statewide jackpot aimed at helping sexual abuse victims.
Lucky Times Pull Tabs owner Abe Spicola said the drawing won by convicted sex offender Alec Ahsoak was organized to help a non-profit group that aids sexual abuse victims, the Anchorage Daily News reported Sunday.

Spicola said Ahsoak, 53, picked up his winnings Saturday and offered brief details on what he plans to do with his new-found wealth.

"He said he was going to buy a house and said he was going to donate part of it to God, and you know, charity," the lottery organizer said.

The Alaskan sex offender registry shows Ahsoak was convicted in 1993 and in 2000 on counts of sexual abuse of a minor.
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Nice. Maybe there will be some new rules for this lottery in the future.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:01 PM   #2
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Wow. That's some brutal irony.
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the ironing is delicious.
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Or a black fly in your Chardonnay

Maybe

A death Row pardon, two minutes too late.

Stupid song doesn't contain one example of Irony.

However the fact that a song about irony contains no examples of Irony is a bit Ironic

But I digress.
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Or a black fly in your Chardonnay

Maybe

A death Row pardon, two minutes too late.

Stupid song doesn't contain one example of Irony.

However the fact that a song about irony contains no examples of Irony is a bit Ironic

But I digress.
haha, no kidding.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:27 PM   #7
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Anyone else catch the "Lucky Times"? I lol'd a bit at that too.
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Or a black fly in your Chardonnay

Maybe

A death Row pardon, two minutes too late.

Stupid song doesn't contain one example of Irony.

However the fact that a song about irony contains no examples of Irony is a bit Ironic

But I digress.
You sit there going through the lyrics, never finding a true example of irony, and you're all like "Haha, stupid Alanis! None of that is ironic at all!"

Only then do you realize how amazing the song really is.
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I hate Alanis Morisette
Yeah, she just doesn't look good naked.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:12 AM   #11
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^^^

LOL. People at my gym will drive around the parking lot for 15 minutes, looking for a spot closest to the door.
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:16 PM   #13
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There are three types of irony:

Verbal Irony.
Also known as sarcasm. A contrast between what is said, and what is meant.
Dramatic Irony.
A contrast between what the character thinks, and what the reader knows.
Situational Irony.
A contrast between what happens, and what is expected.


By my account, the lyrics in Ironic are indeed ironic. Mostly Situational Irony.

Black Fly in your Chardonnay: Wine is fancy, high-class. you don't expect a fly in it. But there is! Alas, situational irony.
You need a fork; instead there are 10,000 spoons. Situational Irony.
Cigaret break -- but there's a no smoking sign. Situational Irony.
And so on.

So to anyone who says the song isn't ironic, please explain.
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There are three types of irony:

Verbal Irony.
Also known as sarcasm. A contrast between what is said, and what is meant.
Dramatic Irony.
A contrast between what the character thinks, and what the reader knows.
Situational Irony.
A contrast between what happens, and what is expected.


By my account, the lyrics in Ironic are indeed ironic. Mostly Situational Irony.

Black Fly in your Chardonnay: Wine is fancy, high-class. you don't expect a fly in it. But there is! Alas, situational irony.
You need a fork; instead there are 10,000 spoons. Situational Irony.
Cigaret break -- but there's a no smoking sign. Situational Irony.
And so on.

So to anyone who says the song isn't ironic, please explain.

Black Fly in your Chardonnay:
Insects get into stuff. Rather standard "poop happens" kinda deal. It would be ironic if the Chardonnay was being served at a banquet for Excellence in Exterminating, or Protect the Endangered Housefly.

I'm not doing the other two, they're pretty much the same thing. "Poop happens" isn't irony.
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http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...ironic+bummers

I remember an English Professor got all in a Huff about the Alanis song containing no irony at all. He said all the things mentioned in the song were merely "bummers" and were not "ironic".

http://www.geocities.com/eirig/

Some writers claim that the Morissette song does describe ironic situations. Supposed experts—college English professors, for example—throw around terms like "verbal irony," "situational irony," "dramatic irony," and even "Socratic irony" to defend the lyrics of the song.

FINAL TALLY
Attempts at describing irony: 11
Successful attempts: 2.5
Confusion of irony with "poor sense of timing":6
Completely blowing it:3

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Gozer's right. The key phrase for situational irony is 'what is expected'

Why do you expect there not to be a no smoking sign when you have a smoking break... Go smoke somewhere else...

The fact that you need a knife (I believe that is the lyric) is no reason to expect one to be available.

Meeting the man of her dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife might be ironic if she'd previously dated him and dumped him because she felt he was beneath her. But the lyric itself does not directly invoke irony.

All of her examples are things that could be ironic, but only with other specified circumstances to explain expectations.

Ah...troutman beat me to it.... shouldn't you be working??? It's my day off...
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Situational Irony.
A contrast between what happens, and what is expected.


Black Fly in your Chardonnay: Wine is fancy, high-class. you don't expect a fly in it. But there is! Alas, situational irony.
You need a fork; instead there are 10,000 spoons. Situational Irony.
Cigaret break -- but there's a no smoking sign. Situational Irony.
And so on.

So to anyone who says the song isn't ironic, please explain.
So ... basically if the Flames are playing the Islanders at home and get beat then it's situational irony? A plane is delayed, it's dituational irony? A freak weather occurence= situational irony? Having a cup of tea in the morning instead of your usual coffee = situational irony? Broken traffic lights = irony? Sounds like every little mishap is ironic. Road traffic accidents, train/plane crashes. Murders. Twin towers ...............

To continue from Gozer ..

Spoons - stupid. Who keeps that many spoons?
Cigarette - Pain in the arse for the smoker.

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Is it ironic that nobody wants to actually hear the song but everyone loves talking about it?
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So ... basically if the Flames are playing the Islanders at home and get beat then it's situational irony? A plane is delayed, it's dituational irony? A freak weather occurence= situational irony? Having a cup of tea in the morning instead of your usual coffee = situational irony? Broken traffic lights = irony? Sounds like every little mishap is ironic. Road traffic accidents, train/plane crashes. Murders. Twin towers ...............

To continue from Gozer ..

Spoons - stupid. Who keeps that many spoons?
Cigarette - Pain in the arse for the smoker.

It takes a little more than a mishap, the circumstances surrounding the defeat of the expectation should/must be directly related to the logical basis for the expectation in my view.

For example a plane being delayed when one expects planes to be on time is not inherently ironic. However, finding out that the plane was delayed because the airport had implented new procedures to load/unload passengers more quickly which procedure failed spectacularly would be ironic.
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Ironic made ironic (courtesy of collegehumor.com)

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An old man turned ninety-eight. He won the lottery and died the next day... of chronic emphysema from inhalation of the latex particles scratched off decades' worth of lottery tickets.

A black fly in your Chardonnay... poured to celebrate the successful fumigation of your recently purchased vineyard in southern France.

A death row pardon two minutes too late... because the governor was too busy watching Dead Man Walking to grant clemency any earlier.

Rain on your wedding day... to Ra, the Egyptian sun-god.

A free ride when you've already paid... all of your money to the good-natured cab driver when you mistook him for a mugger.

The good advice that you just didn't take... after reading Norman Vincent Peale's The Power of Positive Thinking and resolving that the key to success is making your own decisions.

Mr. Play-it-Safe was afraid to fly. He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye. He waited his whole damn life to take that flight. And as the plane crashed down, he thought, Well isn't this nice... now I'll never make it to the National Association of Aviophobics conference in Reno, NV.

A traffic jam when you're already late... to receive an award from the Municipal Planning Board for reducing the city's automobile congestion 80 percent.

A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break... at the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco corporate offices in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

Ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife... with which to kill your spouse for sleeping with the young soup chef who works at the Au Bon Pain.

Meeting the man of my dreams and then meeting his beautiful wife... who happens to be the psychiatrist I recently hired in hopes of improving my luck with the opposite sex.
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