Flames prospect pool ranked 28th...

[Ronald Pagan]

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article..._rankings2130/



Notably bad ranking organization does another notably bad ranking.

Apparently Jusso Puustinen is our 5th ranked prospect ahead of Pelech, Keetley, Wahl and Armstrong.

[STeeLy]

Ryan Wilson isn't on the list.

T.J. Brodie is only a notable mention...

I keep wondering if HF is started by people who just hates the Flames...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Ronald Pagan

Apparently Jusso Puustinen is our 5th ranked prospect ahead of Pelech, Keetley, Wahl and Armstrong.

hahahaha!!

Like I've always said, I don't care where the Flames are ranked, it's the complete lack of knowledge about their system that is hilarious. Just get some simple facts correct.

Jusso Puustenien is not a Flames prospect, and he sucks. And the Flames care certainly not lacking in blueline depth. Brodie, Negrin, Aulie, Wilson, Pelech.

Top six potential include Backlund, Nemisz, and Wahl

[Patrick]

I agree that our "skilled" forwards are lacking. Outside of Wahl, Neimz and Backlund it drops off for scoring.

However, I feel our defense prospects are VERY underrated. Goalies are above average but could be better. Was hoping for Irving to develop a bit faster and be a more bluechip G prospect but still happy with the pick.

Flames nab a couple more Wahl type players in next years draft and than the Flames future will be very solid.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Patrick

I agree that our "skilled" forwards are lacking. Outside of Wahl, Neimz and Backlund it drops off for scoring.

However, I feel our defense prospects are VERY underrated. Goalies are above average but could be better. Was hoping for Irving to develop a bit faster and be a more bluechip G prospect but still happy with the pick.

Flames nab a couple more Wahl type players in next years draft and than the Flames future will be very solid.

hasn't he only been a pro for like 20 games? and in that time he has managed to outplay matt keetley, and for all intents and purposes, move past him in the org chart.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by dobbles

hasn't he only been a pro for like 20 games? and in that time he has managed to outplay matt keetley, and for all intents and purposes, move past him in the org chart.

He's from the same draft class and Jonathan Bernier, Semen Varlamov and Steve Mason, and some have had early success in the NHL so far. That is some finds mind mean that a 20 year old Irving should have immediate success.

Mason is having unreal success in Columbus this year, but I think he'll come down, and Irving is putting up similar numbers to Bernier in the AHL. Hopefully he'll be judged on his own merit going forward.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I was hoping for 30th.

Seriously though, any undertaking by a website that bills itself as "The #1 Online Prospects Resource" is bound to be EPIC FAIL if they lack the resources to cover all organizations adequately.

The last significant Flames page update was to scratch Mickey Renaud's name off the list.

It's just another fansite. Good luck getting them to admit it though...

[edn88]

From the thiry seconds I spent bouncing around on the site, it seems to be fairly out of date and amatuerish.

And if we are 28th now, I wonder how we would have been ranked 5 or 6 years ago - 40th?

[moon]

As soon as I saw the title with the ranking I knew it was going to be from hcokey futures and knew that the Oilers would be ranked nice and high as well.

I love how obvious it is that absolutely no work goes into producing these "rankings" and the Oilers get credit for two "prospects" that have now played a year + in the NHL. (Not that they are the only team with Prospects that are clearly full time guys.)

Maybe next year will we improve based on the breakout potential of Dion Phaneuf and Jarome Iginla!

[madmike]

Weird. The Flames prospect pool is better this year than it's been in recent memory and it still ranks 28th? I wouldn't say they have a lot of high-end forward prospects, but the pool is pretty deep right now, especially in defencemen and goaltenders.

[Canada 02]

a year or two ago I posted my observations on Aaron Marvin when ever i had the chance to see him play (TV or internet). Based on that the HF Flames writer asked me for an evaluation of Marvin and all the Flames prospects

that is how they come up with their info

[Reggie Dunlop]

They should just rename that place "homersfuture" and be done with it.

[Phanuthier]

lol just a joke Pelech isn't even on the list

[JiriHrdina]

Pretty poor job even by HF standards.

[ms.conduct]

Hmm. They overrated Minnesota's forward depth big time, but otherwise were pretty accurate. Wild need to draft an offensive stud in the first and a goalie in the second next year. The rest of the draft will be checkers and grinders like always...

[Robbob]

I don't understand at all. The statement regarding the lack of Dmen prospects is out there. Between Pelech, Brodie, Aullie, Wilson, Negrin plus the other that are delveloping it really makes me wonder if they know anything. I would put those Dmen prospects against any other team except for LA. That being said only one of those Dmen are a 1st rounder so I don't think Calgary is getting the credit they deserve becasue its the late rounders that make it or break it.

[looooob]

ok I"m too lazy to look it up, can someone remind me how the prospect definitions work?

Marc Pouliot, one of the weaker first rounders from 2003 is still considered one of the top 5 prospects for the Oilers, Dustin Boyd, a later round pick in 2004 who has played less NHL games than Pouliot has graduated

[Superfraggle]

Graduation is based on NHL games played and age. Boyd graduated due to the former.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

Graduation is based on NHL games played and age. Boyd graduated due to the former.

fair enough but doesn't Marc 'top 5' Pouliot have him beat on both? (Actually three of the Oilers top 5 prospects have played more games than Boyd--if the info I have is accurate)

edit; nevermind I see my problem...the Oilers ranking is their old one...only the lower ranked teams are new..I think.

[Ronald Pagan]

Update:

The Oilers have the 12th best prospect pool.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article..._rankings1120/



With such great defensive prospects as Jeff Petry and Taylor Chorney along with such great forward prospects like Rob Schremp the only weakness in the pool is goaltender Devan Dubnyk.

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