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Old 11-07-2008, 01:43 PM   #1
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A suspected Sikh terrorist ordered out of Canada eight years ago went underground until he was stabbed in suburban Surrey, B.C., and then was released again on bond, the Vancouver Sun reported last night.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...3-95f7a9ac9c2a

Sweet. This dude has been wanted for 8 years, is a know terrorist, has a deportation order against him and the IRB member releases him?

Did I say how much I love Canada's criminal justice system?
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #2
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A suspected Sikh terrorist ordered out of Canada eight years ago went underground until he was stabbed in suburban Surrey, B.C., and then was released again on bond, the Vancouver Sun reported last night.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...3-95f7a9ac9c2a

Sweet. This dude has been wanted for 8 years, is a know terrorist, has a deportation order against him and the IRB member releases him?

Did I say how much I love Canada's criminal justice system?

While I'm not disagreeing with you, the article says suspected, you say known.

There is a bit (well a lot) of a difference in the meanings of those.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:04 PM   #3
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they will probably end up sikh-ing him for another 8 years....
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:16 PM   #4
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http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/doc/...nlii21481.html

I wonder if this is the IRB decision that found against him in his claim for refugee status? Although the claimant is cited as Mr. XXXXX, the decision was rendered in October 2000 in Vancouver, the man failed in a refugee claim that was under review, and he was found to be a member of BK. A lot of similarities there...
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:21 PM   #5
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http://www.globaltv.com/components/p...82853&sponsor=

Here's a story that has a lot more details. He was turned over to immigration, and immigration ruled that he should be kept in custody, but another immigration official released him. It sounds to me a lot like one individual's error, rather than something systemic in the justice system. As well, it seems that he's been cooperating with the police and immigration officials since his release.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:24 PM   #6
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I wonder if this is the IRB decision that found against him in his claim for refugee status? Although the claimant is cited as Mr. XXXXX, the decision was rendered in October 2000 in Vancouver, the man failed in a refugee claim that was under review, and he was found to be a member of BK. A lot of similarities there...
I am pretty sure that is the same guy.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:26 PM   #7
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Here's a story that has a lot more details. He was turned over to immigration, and immigration ruled that he should be kept in custody, but another immigration official released him. It sounds to me a lot like one individual's error, rather than something systemic in the justice system. As well, it seems that he's been cooperating with the police and immigration officials since his release.
The one who decides the release of detained people under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act is a Board member, in this case one that works for the Immigration Division. ( I incorrectly stated in my first post that he was a member of the IRB which is incorrect). They are not really officials of iimigration, they are more like judges.

Maybe it was a mistake but non the less, if it was that is a pretty big mistake.

As for cooperation of the subject, so says a friend.

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Old 11-07-2008, 02:32 PM   #8
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Baljit Ram was identified as a member of the Babbar Khalsa, a terrorist group that has since been banned, when he applied for refugee status after arriving at Vancouver International Airport in May 1998.
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Exhibit “C2” includes a Statutory Declaration written by Mr. XXXXX upon his arrival at the Vancouver International Airport on September 15, 2000(pp. 50,51). The Minister’s representative also submitted the Statutory Declaration of the Immigration Examining Officer who interviewed Mr. XXXXX at the airport, which includes the English translation of Mr. XXXXX written statement as interpreted to the Officer by a Punjabi interpreter (p. 52).
Okay, possibly not the same. Although the chances, then, of two decisions heard in October 2000 in Vancouver for two suspected BK members seems pretty unlikely. Also, the decider in the CanLII case was "L.I. King". The adjudicator following the stabbing incident was "Leann King".
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:41 PM   #9
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Can criminals do nothing right. How hard is it to stab someone to death. I guess its true that the only reason cops are slightly effective is that criminals are just so dumb.
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