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Old 12-26-2004, 12:51 PM   #1
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The moral majority will be screaming from the rooftops about this I assume??



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Old 12-26-2004, 12:59 PM   #2
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What's next? Are the penguins going to be allowed to have multiple partners? Can penguins start seeing seals too, down the road?
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Old 12-26-2004, 01:08 PM   #3
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Maybe we should stone them to death and teach them gods lessons since obviously they have not been going to church often enough...

It's that damned TV i tell you! Corrupting the youth and penguins of today....

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Old 12-26-2004, 03:19 PM   #4
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Are they allowed to get married? and will they be able to adopt baby penguins?
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:09 PM   #5
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Have you ever seen those great videos of penguins sliding down that slippery slope? Great stuff, or so I thought! If I had known those penguins were a bunch of homos I would never have allowed my children to see it.

I am banning ice cubes in all beverages in my home as a protest of this perversion and I ask you to do the same. Only when that leftie Mother Nature feels it in the pocketbook will she do what's right and set this straight.
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:14 PM   #6
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I bet that underage babysitter wishes Dan Quinn was one of these...umm oops wrong Penguin.
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:36 PM   #7
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Have you ever seen those great videos of penguins sliding down that slippery slope? Great stuff, or so I thought! If I had known those penguins were a bunch of homos I would never have allowed my children to see it.
Or what about that penguin who trips the other one into the ocean?

Blatant and open violence against homosexual penguins!
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Old 12-26-2004, 11:39 PM   #8
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Have you ever seen those great videos of penguins sliding down that slippery slope?
Classic! Excellent! One of the best jabs of the year!

The mating instinct is so strong in cats that male cats have been know to settle for other male cats if they can't find (or win) a female. Of course that wouldn't make em gay, just bi.
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Old 12-27-2004, 10:21 AM   #9
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Sooooo I just don't get it....

We have 35 page (or whatever) threads on this topic when it relates to humans. Heck, there was even a discussion that "allowing" homosexuality in humans might - gasp! - even lead to incest, etc.

Now, pardon me b/c I am "pro-gay" if you will (? - not sure what you call it exactly?) - but where are all the "objecters" from before?

Its ok for nature and animals to do it, but not humans? Or is it just because penguins, are well penguins and who really cares about them?

I agree, tongue in cheek, with all of the comments made in this thread...but I guess that I'm just curious as to why nothing else was said aboutt his...
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:01 AM   #10
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Sooooo I just don't get it....

We have 35 page (or whatever) threads on this topic when it relates to humans. Heck, there was even a discussion that "allowing" homosexuality in humans might - gasp! - even lead to incest, etc.

Now, pardon me b/c I am "pro-gay" if you will (? - not sure what you call it exactly?) - but where are all the "objecters" from before?

Its ok for nature and animals to do it, but not humans? Or is it just because penguins, are well penguins and who really cares about them?

I agree, tongue in cheek, with all of the comments made in this thread...but I guess that I'm just curious as to why nothing else was said aboutt his...
Now, pardon me b/c I am "pro-gay" if you will (? - not sure what you call it exactly?) - but where are all the "objecters" from before?

Objecters to what? I think you're confused about what those people object to, but that's ok, this thread proves that you're not alone
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:13 PM   #11
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Penguins in captivity "may be more likely to form same-sex pairs" due to the difficulty of finding partners of the opposite sex because breeding facilities in Japan only have an average of 20 birds, the agency quoted Ueda as saying.

Kind of a stretch theory to presume they are "gay" then.
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:48 PM   #12
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Penguins in captivity "may be more likely to form same-sex pairs" due to the difficulty of finding partners of the opposite sex because breeding facilities in Japan only have an average of 20 birds, the agency quoted Ueda as saying.

Kind of a stretch theory to presume they are "gay" then.
Right, like the cats then, they are more bi then gay.

It's all just words we use to group or label people or things. Is a person (or animal I suppose) that tried homosexual sex once or twice gay? Perhaps more inportantly, is a person who tried hetrosexual sex once or twice straight?

That's why (well one of the reasons) the whole argument on marriage and slippery slope is just ridiculous. Everyone is different. It's not just a gay/straight argument, there's a whole scale. And no one has a right to say what people can do (if their not hurting anyone else). No church, no government, no internet poster.
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It never fails to amaze me what extremes some people will go through to prove just how normal they are.

I DO have to say that I feel sorry for all gays who were forced to pair up because there were no members of the opposite sex in their cage, forcing them into a gay relationship. After all, we're are ALL animals and, like that puppy with his front paws wrapped around our leg, MUST have sex RIGHT now!
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It never fails to amaze me what extremes some people will go through to prove just how normal they are.

I DO have to say that I feel sorry for all gays who were forced to pair up because there were no members of the opposite sex in their cage, forcing them into a gay relationship. After all, we're are ALL animals and, like that puppy with his front paws wrapped around our leg, MUST have sex RIGHT now!
To your first remark... What is normal? And why does it matter if your are or aren't anyway. I know lots of people who happily proclaim they ae not normal and never want to be.

And to your second remark, no one is saying anyone has been forced, that's what makes humans different from animals the ability (or stronger ability) to choose. People are just pointing out that the whole, 'it's an abomination remark' (along with most other remarks from the moral majority) is a load of bunk because it happens all the time in nature.
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Just because a dog will hump other males when they are horny - does that mean its gay?

A dog will grab my leg, grab a piece of furniture - something/anything to enable its behavioral reactionary needs to hump. It's merely a "tool" just as the penguins same-sex partner is a tool to satisfy its instinctual behavior. Animals and humans are not the same.

One behaves instinctually while one makes a conscious choice.
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Just because a dog will hump other males when they are horny - does that mean its gay?

A dog will grab my leg, grab a piece of furniture - something/anything to enable its behavioral reactionary needs to hump. It's merely a "tool" just as the penguins same-sex partner is a tool to satisfy its instinctual behavior. Animals and humans are not the same.

One behaves instinctually while one makes a conscious choice.
I'm not sure about that. It sounds as though the gay penguins are hooking up not just for sex but for relationships. Penguins are essentially monogomous animals--they're much more relationship based than dogs, which are essentially promiscuous. Would a gay penguin couple break up when more members of the opposite sex are added to the environment? I don't know, they'd need to do another study on that.

The significance of this study isn't in the existance of homosexual behavior in animals, it's of homosexual monogamous relationships.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:06 PM   #17
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One behaves instinctually while one makes a conscious choice.
Genetics and brain chemicals are hardly a 'conscious choice'. Did you get to pick you hair color or your eye color? Better yet, do people get to pick their intelligence? Even things that effect personality can be found in genetics like anger and depression. Can we always pick when we are happy or sad?

Plus too, there is far much more instinct in humans anyway then we are willing to admit.
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Originally posted by Daradon+Dec 27 2004, 05:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Daradon @ Dec 27 2004, 05:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Skyceman@Dec 27 2004, 04:35 PM
One behaves instinctually while one makes a conscious choice.
Genetics and brain chemicals are hardly a 'conscious choice'. Did you get to pick you hair color or your eye color? Better yet, do people get to pick their intelligence? Even things that effect personality can be found in genetics like anger and depression. Can we always pick when we are happy or sad?

Plus too, there is far much more instinct in humans anyway then we are willing to admit. [/b][/quote]
Conscious choice in regards to behaviour.

What you're describing are physical attributes - eyes, intelligence, hair color, etc.

Genetics and environment are two factors that can lead to a change in sexual behaviour but they still have dependants.
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Just because a dog will hump other males when they are horny - does that mean its gay?

A dog will grab my leg, grab a piece of furniture - something/anything to enable its behavioral reactionary needs to hump. It's merely a "tool" just as the penguins same-sex partner is a tool to satisfy its instinctual behavior. Animals and humans are not the same.

One behaves instinctually while one makes a conscious choice.
Thanks for reenforcing the point I was making. The story about the penguins is about animals behaving instinctually in a caged environment. Using it to justify the gay lifestyle is stretching reality and unreasonable. The gay lifestyle is a learned behavior that has been consciously and freely entered into by its proponents.
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Originally posted by Sammie+Dec 28 2004, 12:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sammie @ Dec 28 2004, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Skyceman@Dec 27 2004, 04:35 PM
Just because a dog will hump other males when they are horny - does that mean its gay?

A dog will grab my leg, grab a piece of furniture - something/anything to enable its behavioral reactionary needs to hump. It's merely a "tool" just as the penguins same-sex partner is a tool to satisfy its instinctual behavior. Animals and humans are not the same.

One behaves instinctually while one makes a conscious choice.
Thanks for reenforcing the point I was making. The story about the penguins is about animals behaving instinctually in a caged environment. Using it to justify the gay lifestyle is stretching reality and unreasonable. The gay lifestyle is a learned behavior that has been consciously and freely entered into by its proponents. [/b][/quote]
Ok whoh back this train up.

First off, to the best of my knowledge (from some of my friends who are gay) They did NOT choose to be gay. They were born that way... in no way did they 'make' a choice to like men/women, it just happens that thats the way it is.

What about them?
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