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Old 08-18-2008, 09:20 AM   #1
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My wife signed up for a bootcamp put on and organized by Dwayne Hay in June of this year. The camp was cancelled after one session out of the 8 that were paid for. She was told by him that she would get her money back. He is no longer returning her phone calls and I am starting to wonder what is going on? Has anyone else had a similar experience that you would care to recommend a course of action to get her money back?
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:33 AM   #2
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Well, his site is full of Flames related photos and stuff.

http://dh1speedathletics.com/Hockey-...School-Gallery

Maybe email him and let him know that your next email is to Ken King if he doesn't get back to you.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:41 AM   #3
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Well, his site is full of Flames related photos and stuff.

http://dh1speedathletics.com/Hockey-...School-Gallery

Maybe email him and let him know that your next email is to Ken King if he doesn't get back to you.

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Old 08-18-2008, 11:06 AM   #4
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Well, his site is full of Flames related photos and stuff.

http://dh1speedathletics.com/Hockey-...School-Gallery

Maybe email him and let him know that your next email is to Ken King if he doesn't get back to you.
There must be a picture there from every game he ever played!!!
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:58 PM   #5
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I thought I read somewhere that he was going to play in Sweden this year? I guess I better get her firing emails as training camp is right around the corner...I wish I could choose who's calls I return....
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:20 PM   #6
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Well, his site is full of Flames related photos and stuff.

http://dh1speedathletics.com/Hockey-...School-Gallery

Maybe email him and let him know that your next email is to Ken King if he doesn't get back to you.
what does Ken king have to do with this?

I would contact the local consumer protection/fraud bureau as well as the better business bureau for help/advice
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:35 PM   #7
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what does Ken king have to do with this?

I would contact the local consumer protection/fraud bureau as well as the better business bureau for help/advice

I see what you are saying with Ken King as he is a former Flame. I think an email directly to him is a good idea though as that way we know he is getting it for sure as who knows maybe he is out of the country and not checking his phone messages....It has been an on-going thing though as the camp was supposed to be back in June...I have no experience with going to bbb or similar organizations but my perception is that it would cost you more in chasing costs than you are likely to see back but I could be wrong....
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:39 PM   #8
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The BBB has no power to make a company do anything, send him a registered letter asking for the refund with amount or you will take him to small claims court, than if you don't get the money file in small claims court.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:40 PM   #9
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Might as well start right here, right now:

http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SiteP...4-4e47b63f8795
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^i recently used the BBB for a consumer complaint and it cost me nothing; it was satisfactorily resolved in my favour within a week

Again, i dont see the relavance of contacting Ken King. It would be like you have a complaint against me, so you call my former employer from 8 years ago. Weird!
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Again, i dont see the relavance of contacting Ken King. It would be like you have a complaint against me, so you call my former employer from 8 years ago. Weird!
How can you not see the relevance? It seems pretty clear. His website has a lot of Calgary Flames logos and photos on it. Ken King is the president of the Calgary Flames. Perhaps threatening to have any Flames related stuff pulled from his website would hurry this process along. Really? You don't see that?
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^no i dont. it makes no sense what so ever
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:49 PM   #13
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How can you not see the relevance? It seems pretty clear. His website has a lot of Calgary Flames logos and photos on it. Ken King is the president of the Calgary Flames. Perhaps threatening to have any Flames related stuff pulled from his website would hurry this process along. Really? You don't see that?
While I am no lawyer. They are just photos of him. Yes, as a flame. But him.

You don't think he can put pictures of himself up? Heck, he has to prove to all the post-03 fans that he ACTUALLY did play for the flames!
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:52 PM   #14
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He is using the team to promote his business. The organisation would probably frown upon shady businesses using their name and logo to promote themselves. They would be within their rights to have their stuff removed or to have the site shut down.

Still no? No sense at all?

edit - I'm not saying do it I'm saying threaten to do it.

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For some reason I doubt the suits at the Saddledome want to get in the middle of this. It doesn't have anything to do with them. Hay isn't breaking any rules by having pictures of himself on his website, even if he is wearing a Flames jersey.

How much does he owe you? Pester the hell out of the guy. What's he going to do? Even if he is dodging you, constant phone calls and messages would probably drive him crazy enough to just get it over with.

Did you know anyone else there?
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How much does he owe you? Pester the hell out of the guy. What's he going to do? Even if he is dodging you, constant phone calls and messages would probably drive him crazy enough to just get it over with.

Did you know anyone else there?


$120.
As far as I know my sister and my wife are out $120 each. As for the rest of the group I can't really speak to that?
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$120.
As far as I know my sister and my wife are out $120 each. As for the rest of the group I can't really speak to that?
Well then, including you that's 3 people who can phone him every day, twice on Sundays. Might as well send him some e-mails while you are at it.

$120 just can't be a ripoff job. It ain't worth it. It must be just disorganization or plain old laziness. I know that's why my bills never get paid.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:12 PM   #18
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Sorry to bump this.
Money was refunded and likely it was just a mix up with communications.
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