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Old 02-24-2009, 10:20 AM   #1
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Incredible. Anyone else see this?
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:08 AM   #2
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Just saw it on Sportscentre, the fact he didn't give up on the play he deserved to see that go in.
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:12 AM   #3
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I don't think he got it off in time, in the slow mo still looks like his hand is on the ball when the lights go on, but amazing shot none the less.

edit: on second thought might have just barely got it off, it sure was close though.

re:edit after starting and stopping it a few times i'm pretty sure there is a frame or 2 where it looks like he didn't get it off in time, but so close i don't know how you can tell watching it

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Old 02-24-2009, 11:30 AM   #4
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I don't think he got it off in time, in the slow mo still looks like his hand is on the ball when the lights go on, but amazing shot none the less.

edit: on second thought might have just barely got it off, it sure was close though.

re:edit after starting and stopping it a few times i'm pretty sure there is a frame or 2 where it looks like he didn't get it off in time, but so close i don't know how you can tell watching it
Espn.com webpage has a highlight video on their front page. They have a video that they have paused the action with the ball two inches out of his hands, and the light is not on, and then the next frame the lights come on. He definately got it off before the buzzer.
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:49 AM   #5
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I like right at the end, you see Whiner Carter, "yay, I win"! he didn't say that but i'm sure thats what he is thinking.
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:41 PM   #6
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how about a big fat travel before he shot?
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how about a big fat travel before he shot?
There is no travelling in the NBA!

I thought that at first too, but after watching it a few times he didn't have possession when he took the steps.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:27 PM   #8
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No, the ball wasn't in his hands, therefore, no travel. He attempts the shot, its blocked/deflected by the defender, comes back to him, and then he shoots again right away before travelling.

If the ball never left his hands, then, yes, it would be a travel.
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that is crazy. wow, good focus.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:11 PM   #10
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The player clearly traveled and the bucket should not have counted. Looks as if he took 3 or 4 steps before getting off the hail mary.
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The player clearly traveled and the bucket should not have counted. Looks as if he took 3 or 4 steps before getting off the hail mary.
looked like he lost possession of it.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:21 AM   #12
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If I throw an airball, keep running, and am the guy to catch it without it hitting the ground, that's a travel.

That is what happened here.
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If I throw an airball, keep running, and am the guy to catch it without it hitting the ground, that's a travel.

That is what happened here.
The other player touched it which wouldn't happen during an air ball.

IMO It's a good basket because he loses control and then gains it back after the other team touched the ball.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:39 AM   #14
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It'd be counted as a blocked shot, so he's allowed to continue as a new play. But if you're talking about the initial shot (that got blocked) then yeah, he traveled hard core.

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he lost control of the ball because of:
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provided the ball touches the backboard
or basket ring
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but that wasn't a blocked shot. It never left his hands to be blocked. At best, it was a failed steal attempt, which it wasn't.

It was a travel and the officials didn't have the nuts to call it.
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At 0:09 it touches the defender's left hand, because the ball changes directions.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:55 AM   #17
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he loses control of the ball, then flings his arms as if it were a shot. it most certainly wasn't a shot block or other change of posession that would re-start his steps.
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Possession doesn't need to change in order for him to continue play, the opponent just needs to touch it.
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he loses control of the ball, then flings his arms as if it were a shot. it most certainly wasn't a shot block or other change of posession that would re-start his steps.
went off the defenders chest, no?
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but that wasn't a blocked shot. It never left his hands to be blocked. At best, it was a failed steal attempt, which it wasn't.

It was a travel and the officials didn't have the nuts to call it.
Okay I stopped the video, took a screen shot and enlarged the photo. At this point you can see he has lost control and the other player has touched the ball. You can also tell by the way it changes directions.



- He attempted to take a shot and was fouled.
- When the ball came out of his hands in that attempted shot the other player touches it (as per above)
- He then gains control of the ball for a second time, since it had been touched.
- He then plants one foot, taking no steps and shoots the ball.

Good Basket. Should have gotten three free throws anyways but justice was severed by the miracle shot.
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